And why would a 'god of love' require his only son be slaughtered for sins God could have prevented without...

Question

...messing with free will? God could have prevented sin had he simply kept the Tree out of the Garden, or kept Lucifer out of the Garden, or both. neither would have affected "free will", which God did not respect when it came to hardening Pharoah's heart.

How does this represent a 'god of love'?

Answer 1

God could have made us all little robots but you and I would not exist. The fact is God made man fallable as is all creation. Lucifer was perfect at creation yet he was fallable and he became corrupt as did mankind it was in according to God's plan of salvation for man. Man if he had never eaten of the knowledge of good and evil would have sitll been a little above the animals not knowing good from evil. God gave man the law knowing full well that he was not capable of living up to it. man was a sinful creature he wasn't acountable for sin because without law there is no sin the same as the animals but God's plan for man was much more than his plan for the animals he wanted man to be linked to him to have a relationship with him eternal Now even though man was creation and fallable God had a plan to perfect man this plan included giving man the law to show man his need for God. Now when man fell that was both good and bad but it became a good thing for man because knowing good from evil moved man up the ladder. Now why couldn't God just forgive man? Because God is righteoous he could not say that sin was okay. So man was taught to attone for his sin. The only attonement for sin was death. God knew these things before he created man but had a plan to save his creation. God loved man inspite of his sinful nature so much that he himself came to the world as a man to overcome sin to be toretured and die in his place so that all who aacept this attonement for there sin can have eternal life. That is the God of Love you seek the one who paid the ultimate penalty for you so that you could be forever with him even though you are a sinful creature.

Answer 2

He might have done something like that and still not "messed" with free will, but clearly He wanted you and me and Adam and Eve and maybe even Lucifer, to have real free will. Real free will means actual things to choose from. It means the opportunity to choose good or evil, smart or stupid.

I think that disbelief in the Christian God, or any other god is a valid position, but surely you know these sophomoric questions you propose have been argued for hundreds of years, with some very brilliant people on both sides of the argument, and we still don't have general agreement.

So, you should probably take a less condescending attitude. There are dozens of answers for every question that you propose (like I said, they have been working on them for hundreds of years). And smart people still believe in the Christian God and other gods.

So, if you really want to know why somebody believes the way they do and how they explain the old Pharoah reference, then ask for that information, with the intention to learn.

If you don't care what godly people think but are just trying to "debunk" them, then at least have enough respect not to challenge with the same old questions. You don't think you were the first to ask these two questions do you?

Answer 3

Being sinless in spite of having the opportunity to sin is righteousness. That is not the same as not sinning because you missed the opportunity to sin.
God already knew that Pharaoh would sin. So he hardened his heart. But Pharaoh still chose to sin. It is just that God already knew what he would.choose.

God is love

Answer 4

First of all He is the personification of love. God IS love.


Secondly Freewill is not freewill unless tested.. he made it easy for them and they choose not to follow. so a rightouse God loved them enough to redeem them. Because their sin caused death, it took a sinless death to correct the problem. For every action there is an equall and oposite reaction.

Answer 5

it's all part of the great plan of salvation. and Jesus wasn't His only son. just the only begotton. Yes God could have done all of that. but we're on this earth with free agency so He didn't. He's a god of his word! :) and He loves us!

Answer 6

There is either NO god, or ONE GOD.
NO GOD= ALL YOUR/MY IDEAS ARE ZEO.WORTHLESS.POINTLESS.
*HOWEVER.....SINCE GOD = 3N1 THE TRINITY.
THIS IS THEE ONLY WAY TO MAKE SINCE OF SOMETHING UNCOMPREHENDIBLE, YET REVEALED IN HIS PAGES IN THE BIBLE.,
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS....
There is NOOOOOOO WAY, believers would ever be able to understand the trinity- UNLESS IT WAS REVEALED IN THE BIBLE, AS IT IS. 1JOHN5:7
AND SO IT IS WITH HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PROPHECIES THAT ARE 100%<<<< that is the key. 100% exact.
the old pharoah new the God of the bible(real only one), but it says in the scriptures that: when the old pharaoh died, a new pharoah(king/title anotherwords)took over, it says that HE DID NOT KNOW THEIR GOD......and choose not to find out apparently, until he challenged with 10 plaques set before him by God, AS EXAMPLE OF HIS POWER, INSTEAD OF JUST ZAPPIN HIM.
HE EVEN USED AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE PHAROAHS...ONLY SON-HAVING TO DIE.....BEFORE FINALLY GODS PEOPLE(WERE LET GO/FREE/"SIN" GET IT?)
GODS SON LATER.
OR ABRAHAMS SON .....then Gods son literally, BUT HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD-PROVING HIMSELF GOD.
**FOR THE RECORD....
BUT BIBLE KEYS ON THIS POINT.
THAT IF THE RESURRECTION IS A LIE, THAN EVERYTHING IS!!!! THE BIBLE ITSELF SAYS THIS.
SO...PROVE THE BIBLE/RESURRECTION WRONG FIRST , BEFORE A PERSON SHOULD THROW THEIR SOUL INTO PERMINANT ETERNAL.....DAMNATION.
-LIVE4TRUTH=]
**IF HELL WAS NOT REAL.........I WOULDNT BOTHER TALKIN.

Answer 7

God's ways are not man's ways. Thank God!

Answer 8

Your post is a "freewill".God allowed it.
Read Romans 10 (freewill)

Answer 9

I don't think anyone claimed he is a god of love.