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I mean America is my country as well, and I am not a Christian. Do you think that makes my opinion as a citizen less valid?

2006-10-04 05:19:31 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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yes, in case you never noticed, your president said himself that you are a lesser citizen.

2006-10-04 05:21:41 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

An enormous share of the early founders of the country were Christians who wanted a Christian land to live in peaceably because they couldn't back home. Sure they had their faults and failings, who doesn't. But most of the "toleration" policy was intended to protect conflicts between Baptists and Presbyterians, etc. The founding fathers made it crystal clear that our freedoms and responsibilities were in a Christian context. But they also realized that not all were, nor would there ever be, a completely Christian population.

Today, we've secularized the country. Today, things that were unabiguously normal expressions or inclusions of Christianity are excluded. I went to a public high school and they opened with prayer. It was awful, there were only so many times I could hear my fellow students publicly pray "God bless our football team." But it was a time available to all who would avail of it to start their day in a moment of prayer, for religion was one of the civilizing forces in civilization. Today, Easter is definitely out and Christmas is looking pretty suspect--but Halloween is distinctly okay. Christians get a little testy over the disappearance of their birthright in order to accomodate the political correctness of today. That is understandable. Consider the Native Americans, they get a little bothered by the changes that took place as well.

In the social war, you won, just as the North beat the South in the civil war, you won--the issue isn't whether your "opinion as a citizen is less valid", but whether theirs is. We are socially reconstructing this country and some of your countrymen are facing the same as the Northerners did, the South is of the opinion that they will rise again and throw off the oppression foiced upon them by the victors. (A hint for you, Christians don't so much as think it is "their" country as they do that it is God's country. Logically, if you aren't following God, then it doesn't belong to you. They are not like those whose ancestors were Christians in lands that are now ruled by Moslems, for many Islamic nations today were previously distinctly Christian. We haven't simply resigned ourselves yet.)

2006-10-04 12:37:26 · answer #2 · answered by Rabbit 7 · 0 0

I think the average bible thumping Christian thinks the country belongs to them. I am a Christian and I respect the freewill of others. I do not believe that any country should grant privilege to one religion not extended to all others, and I do not believe that religion has a place in government. If any religion can influence the laws we have, then that religion can create a Nazi Germany all over again. Hitler was a Christian. His movement exterminated 6 of the 9 million existing Jews in his time, and everything he did was legal and "for God."

2006-10-04 12:25:35 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I like to consider myself an average Christian. I don't think the country belongs solely to me. The country belongs to its citizens. Your opinion is as valid as my own. We all get one vote each and one vote only. If people who think differently than me out number people who think like me, then I have two choices: 1. Live with it. 2. Try to change thier minds, but know I might fail.

2006-10-04 12:22:38 · answer #4 · answered by Rainy Days and Mondays 3 · 0 0

you mean like the Dutch Christians and the Wappingers?

Rodolf and his men just slaughtered every Wecquaesgeek in the sleeping village at Pavonia without regard for age or sex. The killing by these Dutch "Christians" was especially brutal involving babies hacked to death in their mother's arms, torture, and mutilation. When the attacks began, some Wecquaesgeek made the mistake of fleeing to Fort Amsterdam. They were murdered in cold blood outside the gates and their bodies tossed into the Hudson. De Vries, who had relocated near the Tappan villages at Corlear's Point and apparently bore no hatreds after his plantation on Staten Island had been destroyed by the Raritan, saved some of the Wecquaesgeek who came to him for protection by telling them to hide in forest. In all, Andriansen killed 31 but brought 30 prisoners back to an uncertain fate at Fort Amsterdam. Rodolf butchered 80 Wecquaesgeek and took no prisoners. His soldiers reportedly brought the severed heads of their victims back to the fort and played kickball with them. Preparing for a possible siege, Kieft further inflamed the situation by seizing corn from the Metoac on Long Island and killing three Canarsee warriors in the process.

2006-10-04 12:23:47 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

German pagan here, immigrated in 2004.

I am under the impression that you are right, christians think the USA is theirs, and if we (the non-christians) don't like that, why don't we just go away, or back where we came from, and such...

Just take the alledged "freedom of religion". As long as your religion is about the carpenter Jeoshua ben Joseph, and you think he is a son of Jachweh, (and of course you must believe that Jachweh is the only god existing!) then yes, freedom of religion is for you.
They will accept all versions, you can be a catholic, a lutheran, a baptist, mormon, presbytarian, anglican, calvinist, methodist, whatever. As long as you worship "Jesus", everything will be ok and your religion will be accepted.

But as soon as you worship other deities, their freedom of religion is immediately over.

Freedom of religion is only for christians, basically.

2006-10-04 12:30:00 · answer #6 · answered by albgardis T 3 · 1 0

I agree with you, but remember that most Christians and people in general, do not live in YOUR country. Just a comment, though. I agree in essence with your message.

2006-10-04 12:22:03 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You're the minority our Christian founding fathers sought to protect and you're less than 3% seems to be in charge an awful lot. That small percentage keeps prayer and religious events out of schools, out of courts, out of city events. That's pretty go for a bunch of people that barely account for the population of one small city.

Go find one other religious majority country (the U.S. is 90% Christian according to census) that puts down the massive majority in favor of a small minority.

You obviously have some allies in the courts and governement who put aside their Sunday religious views in order to keep things fair.

2006-10-04 12:25:50 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

No, Christians do NOT believe that this country belongs to us, we do not love what is of this earth. True Christians would not kill to protect what is eathly. This country belong to the Republicans and Catholics, both which are not of God.

2006-10-04 12:23:47 · answer #9 · answered by CoWBoY829 3 · 1 2

They are taught that the Universe belongs to them. I don't say this to be mean either. It's the Dominion over the Earth concept.

2006-10-04 12:21:21 · answer #10 · answered by a_delphic_oracle 6 · 2 1

man, live and let live..

same to all of you out there.

(personally, i don't think Christians think, or claim that any country belongs solely to them.)

2006-10-04 12:24:09 · answer #11 · answered by doe 3 · 0 0

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