How realistic is Ultimate Fighting?

Question

Okay, so I was looking at a school recently (they do Kung Fu) and I asked them if they did Ultimate Fighting. They guy who was there said they taught stuff that would work in the street but wasn't designed for competition.

How can you teach something that only works half the time? I mean an air filter is an air filter regardless of where it is being used. Right?

Thanks.

jack

Answer 1

UFC is very realistic. It isn't about which style is better or that the stronger fighter will win. It is about who is better all around and in some cases a lucky punch gets in. But that is what boxers do right throw 50 punches just in hopes one will connect.
All Martial Arts have tournaments. They match fighters only from the same style against each other, The devisions are based on age, weight and skill level as well as men and woman.
MMA competitions are freestyle meaning any fighters with any Martial arts training can compete and they are usually devided into weight classes only. It is up to the fighter to be honest about their skills. How ever you canot get into the UFC, Pride, KOTC and some other competitions unless you prove yourself and are typically invited.
If the dojo tells you their style is only for street fighting purposes. Don't train there. They will only be teaching you how to hurt people not how to be self diciplined and ow to use discretion. It's all this recent hype about Ultimate Fighting that has made everyone think Martial arts is a new thing and all it does is teach you how to beat people up.

Answer 2

Ultimate fighting is a competition. Like any competition you must train for it. Ultimate fighting training lends it self to strength training, striking, grappling, etc. I would say if you train for Ultimate fighting you would be prepared more than the normal person for a street fight. As pointed out, there are certain things you should not do in the ring such as gouge someone's eye out, snap fingers, try to break the other guys leg (damaging is just fine), don't hit the guy in the back of the head, and if he can no longer fight back, go ahead and stop. Ultimate fighting is always one-on-one. Which is good. A victory in UFC and such is winning the fight.
As far as self-defense, winning is surviving the encounter with as little damage as possible. I seriously hope you never have to fight a UFC fighter in the street, that would suck.
The goals are different. The goals for taking martial arts is different. Some folks train for the discipline, to get into shape, to learn the art, to be at peace, for giggles, because they want to, while others will join to fight.
So I guess, MA is not an air filter and neither is UFC.

Answer 3

Rules, referee, gloves. While the techniques I have seen used in the UFC would be useful, the existance of rules referees and protective equipment take a degree of the realizm out of it. The point from what I gather in your story wasn't that the techniques they taught wouldn't work in competition, but that they wouldn't be allowed. For competition the techniques have to be scaled back, controlled, or not used. Too many people that train for competiton, don't train for anyithg else and find that in real life situation they don't do as well because their opponent isn't playing by any rules. I don't train people for competition, I WON'T train people for competition for that very reason if you get used to haveng rules and a mediator, you won't be as efective in a real life situation. That is why some martial arts styles (Tae Kwan Do, Judo) have a reputation for lacking effectiveness, too many instructiors in those styles train more for competition that for practicality, not all do this, but enough that it has an impact. If someone is teaching skill that ar suited to street combat, rather than competition that usually only means that they don't stress the limitations that competition puts on the skill of a fighter. While control is necessary, too much can limit your effectiveness.

Answer 4

Ultimate fighting is "as real as it gets",

Good now lets look at that here. Whether ultimate fighting or sparring in class with full contact there are going to be limitations for safety. We all have jobs and lives and those lives do not include bieng professional unarmed fighters marching off to fight a war with our bare hands.

The whole "street" excuse has been used ad infinitem. The real truth is that you have to learn to hit the person and how to defend yourself.

You think just because you can eye gouge or kick someone in the balls or hit the back of the head that just because the guy training under the other ruleset can't?

If these techniques are too deadly then I ask "how do you train them so you know they will work?" or are you just guessing.

Granted there will be a few things that you need to pull your punches on so you don't maim or unessesarily injure your sparring partner so you are still in effect operating under a ruleset. Just like in the UFC you will not train to deliver debilitating elbows to the back of your opponent's head in practice.

So you will not have effectively trained this.

The phrase "as real as it gets" takes on a whole new meaning now. those rules that it does have were meant for safety to avoid unessesary injuries but are still not that limiting. There might be a small percentage of things that you cannot do, but if I can do 90% of everything else very well, and you don't do anything because you don't train it against a fully resistant opponent, and never tested your stuff in sparring. you won't be able to apply it.

Answer 5

"Rules, referee, gloves. While the techniques I have seen used in the UFC would be useful, the existance of rules referees and protective equipment take a degree of the realizm out of it. The point from what I gather in your story wasn't that the techniques they taught wouldn't work in competition, but that they wouldn't be allowed. For competition the techniques have to be scaled back, controlled, or not used. Too many people that train for competiton, don't train for anyithg else and find that in real life situation they don't do as well because their opponent isn't playing by any rules. I don't train people for competition, I WON'T train people for competition for that very reason if you get used to haveng rules and a mediator, you won't be as efective in a real life situation. That is why some martial arts styles (Tae Kwan Do, Judo) have a reputation for lacking effectiveness, too many instructiors in those styles train more for competition that for practicality, not all do this, but enough that it has an impact. If someone is teaching skill that ar suited to street combat, rather than competition that usually only means that they don't stress the limitations that competition puts on the skill of a fighter. While control is necessary, too much can limit your effectiveness. "


Yes because UFC/Pride fighters won't eye gouge and bite as well. Yes UFC is realistic or you can take some McDojo.


Then you can test your theory of self defense Just wait until a real life or death situation to test it.



And get your *** beat because you find out it doesn't work as well as you thought.

btw Vale Tudo and older UFC allowed those rules looked up Keith Hackney vs. Joe Son.

Answer 6

While MMA does have rules, they provide you will valuable experience in fighting. Many Kung Fu forms will teach you some things that are illegal in the ring, but try pulling a move you have never used before except slow mo against a person trying to kill you.

MMA is a DAMN good idea of what works and what doesn't. It also doesn't taske a genius to kick someone in the balls or poke their eye, so they can do it to you also. You Kung Fu eye gouge is know by everyone as a poke in the eye, nothing special.

MMA fighter know how to cover up and defend themselves, from experience. Dojo warriors never have someone really testing them to protect themselves.

Answer 7

Kung Fu is no way an ultimate fighting form. Ultimate Fighting is as real as it gets but there are still rules. And there you are righting the best fighters in teh world and they are prepared for almost anything you can offer. On the street, your chances of meeting someone of that caliber are slim to none so Kung Fu will help you there. But Kung Fu still is an old art. There are many better forms out there if defending yourself is something you are interested in. Aikido and Jeet Kun Do are the best, in my opinion, for that.

Answer 8

No sport fighting can be realistic. In sports, there are rules, on the street there are not.
Some examples from ultimate fighting:

All fights in the ring are 1 on 1.
Blows to the neck aren't allowed.
Groin attacks aren't allowed.
Attacks to the eyes aren't allowed.
Blows to the knees aren't allowed.
Fighters are close in size.

There are many more, but this should do for a start.

Answer 9

Think about this. You have two countries that will go to war with eachother.

One country military never practice with live bullet, never shoot at targets, never practice with paintball gun, or anything. They only practice with a blank gun and do nothing but drill and marching. They never experience any real fear, hardship, have to make decision in microsec, or anything. No one help eachother out because they all think they're the best commandos around.

Other country military fires live bullet daily, shoot at target, practice with paint ball gun in mock battlefield, and take lot of precaution with real weapons. They handle real weapon and use it in practice. In mock battle, they have to make decision quickly, know how to handle stress, doesn't froze as much, and learn to work together.


Who would you bet on?






The first country is a perfect example of the people from kung fu school. Students never hit a real target, punch air all day, do lot of katas, never spar or anything.

Second country is a example of a ulimate fighter. Even though they may practice in mock enviroment with precaution, safety, and rule. However they know exactly what they're capable of and have lot of experience with making decision and things not going their way. So they basically are more aware of what is realistic.

Answer 10

because in MMA there are rules to keep you somewhat safe. Such as striking to the back of the head, un-contested blows to the face, open palm strikes. The guy at that school was most likely telling you that he would teach self defence, which is NOT ultimate fighting. For example... if you came at me with ultimate fighter rules, I will kick you in the balls or strike your throat. Once you are on the ground walk away or run. Those moves are NOT allowed in the ring.