Did you Know Christians Realize that Christ wasn't actually born on December 25th!!!?

Question

Ok non-Christians. You got us. Christ wasn't born on Christmas.

Before you celebrate that little victory, did you know that it's not that big of a deal? The actual date of Christ's birth is not known so why not make it on a day people are already comfortable celebrating on? Besides, so many people on here keep claiming Christ is just a fairy tale, so why would you accuse us of getting a date wrong for a birth that never took place? Did you also know that the only evidence we have Christ wasn't born on Dec. 25th is in the Bible? So are you non-Christians actually using the Bible to support your claims?

Someone in a previous questions said we are taking back Christmas for the pagans.... then it wouldn't be CHRIST-mas would it?

Answer 1

I have always heard that Jesus Christ was born in April. It would have been too cold in the stable in December, even in Israel.

I am Christian.

Answer 2

Well of course, just like we use the Koran, the Torah, the Bagavita and other religious books. How else do you expect someone to understand a time period without a complete study of the current literature? Mind you I'm having a bit of a difficult time understanding the aboriginal myths of the time, but they ARE part of an oral tradition so inflection is lost in print.
And to continue your claims...
No it wasn't Christmas until the Catholic Church took over & renamed Yule. Pagan influences: The tree, the log, the gifts & the midnight services.(among others) Santa comes from the Victorian times when the Brit gov't/church desided it was better to turn it into a family holiday vs the adult holiday it was. (this is when greeting cards started too.)
(start generalization here)We needle you on it BECAUSE you are so ADMANT that all of the words/stories in your book are absolute. Well, read the Latin or Hebrew versions or something before the King James version and see what stories have been omited completely or have had the interesting parts left out.
So here is one of my own: Where is the Land of Nod & if Yahway was the only one creating people (and now there was only 3) how did Cain's wife come to being?

Answer 3

Dec. 25th is the day we set aside to commerate when Jesus Christ came to Earth. We give each other gifts to celebrate the gift God gave us through His Son. No, it isn't the actual day Jesus was born on.

It is true that many Christian traditions have their origin in pagan practices. It was what the people knew. Why wouldn't they take what the already knew and modify it for a new purpose? Many sacred traditional hymns started out as tavern drinking songs. So what? Why is that even important?

Answer 4

A lot of people make the mistake of assuming that it even represents a "birthday party" of sorts. It isn't.

Christmas stands for "Christ Mass" in the old Catholic parlance - in other words it was the liturgical feast that celebrated the nativity. It is a yearly ocassion when the readings in church are about the nativity, the decorations are red, the ministers' robes are red, and the hymns are about the nativity.

That's it - all this strange birthday stuff others seem to think its about really isn't relevent.

Answer 5

Let them have December 25 back. They can go all out celebrating pagan dieties and talking about Santa. We can take Christmas, move it to another day, and let it be reserved specifically for Christians.
And I guarantee you, in another generation, they'll be whining because they're not included in THAT Christmas either, and they'll start to water down that day as well.

It's amazing how you never see them doing that to other religions. Yom Kippur was just the other day, how many people were on here "debating" over that?

Answer 6

I know Christ wasn't born on Dec. 25, because he wasn't born at all. He's a myth.

But your admission that Dec 25 could not be the birthday of Jesus even if he had been real doesn't address the real issue, which is that the Yule was not original a Christian holiday at all, but was declared to be Jesus' birthday by the church because Christians were already celebrating it! They did the same thing with Easter, but they forgot to change the name, and attempted to do the same with Samhain, but it never really took, and Halloween was born as a result.

Answer 7

Many Xians believe X was born Dec. 25, so you cannot tell us they don't. Is it a big deal or not? It is just one more proof of Xians' ignorance. Yes, I use the Bible to disprove many things Xians say. You claim to believe it, so if one finds contradictions and errors of fact in it and in your interpretations of it, that undermines your naive beliefs. The only use I see for the Bible is to prove Xians are wrong. When Xians say X was born Cec. 25, they display ignorance about their own holy book. I don't say whether Jesus really lived or not, but if he was born, I want to get the date correct. I seek truth. You try to dismiss it all too lightly.

Answer 8

We know this from highly educated christians and theologians, not from the bible.
25 dec,easter is a pagan holiday.
Still it is up to u to celebrate it or not.
It is your religion, follow what u want.

But to us , Jesus( peace be upon him) is not a myth or fairy tale.
He will descent back to us when the antichrist( dajjal ) arrive.
We dont think he died on the cross, someone else died.

Answer 9

Actually, most Christians have no idea what the origins of Christmas are, nor do they know the date of his supposed birth.

But this is true of every facet of their religion. They don't know the origins or history of their religion at all.

All they know is, they go to church... like everyone else... and they do all the "Christian" things, just like everyone else.

And they are comfortably ignorant, not asking why or how. They just "believe" in their religion... just like everyone else. It's too bad they don't realize they're being manipulated like cattle by people like Dubya, Pat Robertson, Falwell, etc...

Answer 10

Here Here. Why should they care about a holiday that tey don't even believe in. Why don't they just leave it alone, since it doesn't involve them anyways.