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I know they are waiting for the second coming in which he is expected to rise from the East side of Israel. However I dont understand why they did not believe he is the son of God.

2006-10-03 14:22:06 · 21 answers · asked by manpsych 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I am actually looking for the theological view, I am not judging anyone. I enjoy understanding different perspectives on religion

2006-10-03 14:28:32 · update #1

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The messiah will bring peace on earth and justice for all (perfection). Does this look like a perfect world to you????

Messiah : The Criteria

Judge for yourself:
Did Jesus fulfill ALL these criteria?

The Jewish tradition of "The Messiah" has its foundation in numerous biblical references, and understands "The Messiah" to be a human being - without any overtone of deity or divinity - who will bring about certain changes in the world and fulfill certain criteria before he can be acknowledged as "The Messiah".
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First of all, he must be Jewish - "...you may appoint a king over you, whom the L-rd your G-d shall choose: one from among your brethren shall you set as king over you." (Deuteronomy 17:15)

He must be a member of the tribe of Judah - "The staff shall not depart from Judah, nor the sceptre from between his feet..." (Genesis 49:10)

To be a member of the tribe of Judah, the person must have a biological father who is a member of the tribe of Judah.

He must be a direct male descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son - "And when your days (David) are fulfilled, and you shall sleep with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who shall issue from your bowels, and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build a house for my name, and I will make firm the throne of his kingdom forever..." (2 Samuel 7:12 - 13)

The genealogy of the New Testament is inconsistent. While it gives two accounts of the genealogy of Joseph, it states clearly that he is not the biological father of Jesus. One of the genealogies is through Nathan and not Solomon altogether!

He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel -"And he shall set up a banner for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." (Isaiah 11:12)

Are all Jews living in Israel? Have all Jews EVER lived in Israel since the time of Jesus?

He must rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem - "...and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and my tabernacle shall be with them.." (Ezekiel 37:26 - 27)

At last check, there is NO Temple in Jerusalem. And worse, it was shortly after Jesus died that the Temple was DESTROYED! Just the opposite of this prophecy!

He will rule at a time of world-wide peace - "...they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore." (Micah 4:3)

Have you seen a newspaper lately? Are we living in a state of complete world peace? Has there ever been peace since the time of Jesus?

He will rule at a time when the Jewish people will observe G-d's commandments - "My servant David shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall follow My ordinances and be careful to observe My statutes." (Ezekiel 37:24)

The Torah is the Jewish guide to life, and its commandments are the ones referred to here. Do all Jews observe all the commandments? Christianity, in fact, often discourages observance of the commandments in Torah, in complete opposition to this prophecy.

He will rule at a time when all people will come to acknowledge and serve one G-d - "And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before Me, says the L-rd" (Isaiah 66:23)

there are still millions if not billions of people in the world today who adhere to paganistic and polytheistic religions. It is clear that we have not yet seen this period of human history unfold.

All of these criteria are best stated in the book of Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28:

And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Yaakov my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children's children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore.

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be "The Messiah." A careful analysis of these criteria shows us that to date, no one has fulfilled every condition.

Certainly NOT Jesus.

2006-10-03 14:30:22 · answer #1 · answered by Hatikvah 7 · 0 0

This is a very interesting question because in order for someone to be the messiah, he has to fulfill something like 150 or so guidelines... the likely hood of any man fulfilling just 10 of those guidelines is like 1 in a billion, and Jesus fulfilled all of them. Some of these include being born in Bethlehem, being pierced without breaking a bone, coming after Elijah, being from the line of David, and being hated my his own people... that is just the beginning. There are many many more, and Jesus fits every one of them. These guidelines were given to the Jews so that they may know the messiah when he came. So, I have no idea why they do not believe that Jesus is the messiah... there is absolutely no reason not to.

2006-10-03 14:27:13 · answer #2 · answered by ToYkaT04 3 · 0 0

its a question of what the messiah is supposed to be, and qualifying to be that.

the jewish messiah is just a man. not god, no more divine than you or I,
the jewish messiah is not, and never was meant to be a sacrifice, or anything like that.

the jewish messiah will be a king, a leader.

Jesus did not qualify, if he had no biological father, then he could not qualify to be a king, and thus could not be the messiah.

the jewish messiah isn't killed, and doesn't die in the process of the purpose...

in judaism when the messiah comes, it will be the messianic age. the sequence of events listed, happens in one sequence, none of this "half of it now, half when I come back" when its time its time. will all be done in one "trip"

Jesus simply was not the messiah prophesized by the old testament.

>>"Maybe because no one witnessed the resurrection. "<<

which is meaningless, because the jewish messiah wasn't meant to die, or be ressurected to begin with!

Judaism has no issue with the means of his getting there. the fact is that he simply was not what the old testament prphesied.

and to preempt something here... no jewish people belive in jesus as anything more than a man. if they belive he was the messiah or anything more than just a man, then they are no longer jewish, because raising him above being just a man, is idolotry and/or polytheism.

2006-10-03 14:31:53 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I believe this is why:

Matthew 28
11While the women were on their way, some of the guards went into the city and reported to the chief priests everything that had happened. 12When the chief priests had met with the elders and devised a plan, they gave the soldiers a large sum of money, 13telling them, "You are to say, 'His disciples came during the night and stole him away while we were asleep.' 14If this report gets to the governor, we will satisfy him and keep you out of trouble." 15So the soldiers took the money and did as they were instructed. And this story has been widely circulated among the Jews to this very day.

2006-10-03 14:37:00 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Two reasons really. One, the Pharisees thought the the Messiah would support them even though they had perverted the laws of Moses. He dared to question them and they could not abide this undermining of their power. Two, they thought the Messiah would not come from humble beginnings, the son of a carpenter, and they did not believe the virgin birth even though Isaiah prophesied as much. I am not Jewish, but that's what I am told by Judeo-Christians.

2006-10-03 14:27:08 · answer #5 · answered by reformed 3 · 0 0

The same reason why the Buddhists and hindu's do. It is simply a matter of faith. I am a catholic, and I believe that Jesus was the savior, but we can never be 100% sure about anything. Heck, there are about 4 major religions, any of them could be right. Just not the Muslims, I hope.

2006-10-03 14:24:58 · answer #6 · answered by ihatehippies 3 · 0 0

Ok, first of all...The jews do not believe He is expected to rise from the east side of Israel. Most Jews do not believe he even existed. Secondly, according to judaism...Jesus did not fulfill all messianic prophecies. (E.G-rebuilding the Temple of Jerusalem) although some say he did it in "man's heart".

2006-10-03 14:24:59 · answer #7 · answered by emerald_lotus2006 1 · 0 0

Because they expected someone to become King and rule over them with great power. They couldn't accept the lowly Jesus who never had a place to lay His head. A man who traveled with fishermen and common folk and was routinely seen with known sinners. The religious powerful are the ones who wouldn't accept Him and they encited riots against Him with no proof, but they were rich and enfluential and weilded power with the Romans who of course crucified Him.

2006-10-03 14:26:58 · answer #8 · answered by Prophecy+History=TRUTH 4 · 0 0

The question isn't how Jews could have self assurance in Jesus, yet how gentiles could have self assurance in Jesus? you will desire to undergo in recommendations that Jesus is a Jew. interior the initiating all the deciples have been jews. The rituals we Christians use all got here from the Jews. The Jews have been the chosen human beings, and we gentiles have been chosen by potential of the Jews to become (man made) Jews. the arriving of the Christ became into foretold by potential of human beings interior the Jewish faith: long earlier the time of Jesus. without the Jews believing in Jesus there could be no Christian Church right this moment! Christ and the deciples have been all believers interior the Jewish faith and went to provider on Saturday, not Sunday like Christians do. Now, i've got self assurance that Christ believed in himself, yet he became into not a"Christian" and the Christian Church became into not based for some years after the loss of life of Christ. in fact, the church is in line with Jesus' loss of life and resurrection. It became into Jews that believed that instructed the story to gentiles who then believed. So why did the gentiles have self assurance? The e book referred to as the bible relies on the Jewish faith. so which you will desire to, in case you're a classic Christian, base a number of your ideals on the Jewish faith. you realize: Adam and Eve; Abraham and Sara; Lot and Lottie; David and his spouse and lady pal and the solid and undesirable that has transpired over 1000's of years. Now in case you're a Christian you have self assurance in loving your fellow guy, and in forgiveness. So forgive me my transgressions as I forgive people who transgress against me. yet i might prefer to work out Christians study the Bible sufficient to appreciate that the Christian faith is all concerning to the Jews and "their" war for survival. undergo in recommendations the Commandments and shop them Jewishly holy. undergo in recommendations: Love thy neighbor as thy self, and the different 9. i admire you guy... would God be with you!!!!

2016-10-15 12:01:26 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Geza Vermes, the great Jewish scholar of the historical Jesus, said it best: "If Jesus is the messiah, where is the messianic age?" Indeed. One might ask that question especially after the Shoah.

2006-10-03 14:23:48 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Hundreds of thousands of former Christians do not believe that, so why should the Jews believe it?

We are all sons and daughters of God, and equal to Jesus in that respect.

2006-10-03 14:26:59 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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