5 Amish girls were shot and killed died and multiple others wounded recently. the gunman planned to rape each and everyone of them...he even brought lubricants and various other "tools" to do so.
yet, despite this tragedy, an Amish woman said that they believe it was God's plan. this is what i cant understand. how can you trust in a God who would allow such suffering, especially when he incorporates it into his plan? that God allows the suffering and you thank him for his blessings the same day?
and lets try to avoid "its faith" "dont judge god" "we dont know what Gods plan is" type answers. give me reasons.
2006-10-03 10:36:56 · 19 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
God does not cause bad things but, He can and does use everything for good. We don't always see the why but, if we trust Him, we know that He will, He has a reason for everything.
Our thought are not His thoughts.
I believe these people were saved and recieved the prize. They are with their Lord.
We are worth a Son to God.
2006-10-03 10:45:49 · answer #1 · answered by thomasnotdoubting 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It's difficult to explain. God is not capable of evil. He is righteous. He does not cause bad things to happen to good people. He doesn't plan evil. This was not His plan for good or bad. God gave man choice and man has a sinful nature. What happens on this earth is man's. I think where some people interpret that God has a master plan is from the instruction that He is Alpha and Omega, which means that He is the End and the Beginning. It means that He knows the end from the beginning. He saw it all before it happened. That doesn't mean He uses that to dictate or influence our actions. I think some misunderstand, also, that He will make a way for us and that He will assist us when prayed to through Jesus Christ. That doesn't mean He will interfere in the evil choices of man. Many, many people will look back on this tragedy and see that God did provide alternatives to this end that man/woman did not choose. This is hindsight and doesn't contridict the Word at all. It's just difficult to explain. God did not "plan" this for those children. What she refers to is the belief that God can turn what is meant for evil to produce good. The Amish believe that all things are to glorify God and would see this as somehow, in some unforseen time, being used to glorify God in some way. It is possible that it will. Often things we see as tragic are later seen as a blessing. I don't know how that could be the case here, but it's not for me to judge. Sorry, but we cannot know what man's choices will be. God knows because He saw them from the beginning.
2006-10-03 10:52:59 · answer #2 · answered by reformed 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is not God to blame. It is the man who did it and him letting satan take over. God has plans and if you see the girls were not raeped or molested. I dont understand why when something bad happens they always blame God for it. Isnt there some accountability here that the killer did not obey God as he was a church going, loving dad? God has plans and for our "earthly reasons" we may never understand why bad things happen to good people. To blame God for them is not right either. God allows suffereing so we can have comfort and faith and trust in him. Reasons are byond anything we all will ever know as humans.
2006-10-03 10:45:24 · answer #3 · answered by yeppers 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Life is God's gift. However, God only writes the
genetic code up to the point of water. After that, living creatures
that evolve from water, write their own code. We have our own
dreams, our own name, and our own independence.
What happened in that Amish school house is the price we
pay for that independence.
Religion and our nation's creed have one thing in common.
Freedom is never free.
There will be a judgement. But that judgement will not
come when we die. That judgement is rendered each time
we are born, for we are born into a genetic situation of
which we are a part.
Keep The Faith
2006-10-03 11:16:23 · answer #4 · answered by kyle.keyes 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Man has free will to do what he wants. God does not interupt free will. Judgement does come to all. God will deal with it. The Amish woman was wrong with how she said it. God does not plan for evil but he does plan for judgement and salvation. He answers to anyone who calls on him (no, not instantly, he's not a magic genie). If you're true in your faith and your walk in life, God will let you know he's there.
2006-10-03 10:44:30 · answer #5 · answered by Aliayh 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
What a man does, is his own choice. When a person is controlled by evil, then he imparts that evil on those around him. The Lord God does not wish evil on anyone. It saddens Him when things like this happen.
When Joseph's brothers sold him into slavery, and told thier father, Jacob, he had been killed by a wild animal, Jospeh told God, he understood that his brothers meant it for evil, but God meant it for good. Or, God can use it for the good of His children.
Nothing is plausable in this whole ordeal. But, when you have faith in the Lord God, though you may go through the valley of the shadow of death, God will bring it to good. Those girls are in heaven now, in the arms of Jesus. Those parents know that.
2006-10-03 10:47:11 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I agree, I don't like when people say it was Gods plan. God did not plan for that man to do those horrible things. He planned for man to have free will. We choose to be evil or to be good. Unfortunatly that man choose to be evil.
And that woman chooses to have faith that somehow God will make it better, that is part of God's plan for us to continue to believe even in the midst of chaos and evil. But I don't believe he planned for that man to do what he did, I believe that God planned for us to survive even when pushed to the limit.
I am not a "holy roller", but I think people have a choice to live free or to live surpressed. You can believe in anything you want, but never let what some sadistic a***le does, get you to stop believing in what ever it is that you believe in. It only means they win.
2006-10-03 10:47:50 · answer #7 · answered by eyvette13 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
despite whether you believe in God or not
there is no denying that this man was sick
what happened should never have happened
and yes i do believe in God and no i am not defending him or making excuses ... but we cant blame God for the actions of a sick individual
i know you are going to see this as defence but by all means if you wish to do so then go ahead
but i for one do not blame God for anything that happens in this life .... the same as i do not praise God for anything wonderful that happens in my life
2006-10-03 10:42:17 · answer #8 · answered by Peace 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Look, this coming from a grieving woman who was trying to find some comfort, I don't know all the doctrines of the ammish religion, but I'm not going to worry about someone who's trying to comfort themselves.
2006-10-03 10:42:59 · answer #9 · answered by daisyk 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Because absent faith, they would have to face the terrifying fact that 5 girls have been killed for nothing other than this man's designs.
Absent faith, all they have are 5 dead girls.
2006-10-03 10:39:33 · answer #10 · answered by Blackacre 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋