Is it time for Megans law in the uk?

Question

The paedophile who is suspected in Glasgow murder had new identity supplied by social workers to protect him.Who protects our children.

mr sceptic read megans law its on the web

Answer 1

It is far past time that the UK begin to use programs like Megan's Law and Amber Alerts, along with changing laws to forgo the 24 hour waiting period before searches for missing children begin. I hope that SOB is caught soon and that the UK starts to make these necessary changes ASAP! Pedophiles are the lowest form of life on this planet and ALL of us have to get together and protect our children.

Answer 2

I'm with lippz and Mr Sceptic. You have to question the motives of supporters of Megan / Sarah's law. A large part of the motivation seems to be unlawful revenge, not protecting our children if we know a paedophile lives nearby. The case quoted of paedetrician being beaten up demonstrates how a little knowledge can inflict a lot of damage, and perhaps I'm cynical, but the support for Sarah's law in the UK was to do with selling the Sun and News of the World newspapers.

Why not have a competition to dream up the most awful "punishment" that vigilantes can inflict on paedophiles. And then when the vigilantes have finished with the paedophiles, perhaps the self-righteous indignants can start on drunk drivers, speeding drivers, careless parents who allow accidents in the home, and all those things that cause more deaths and physical injuries (and psychological too) than child abusers. Child abuse is a premeditated act, so is drunk driving or speeding past school gates.

But none of this answers the question posed. For all its faults, the criminal justice system is intended to protect potential victims, and undermining it as some suggest below by taking the law into their own hands. Victim protection does not exclude treatment for offenders.

Answer 3

The paedophile's who get caught are not generally likely to re-offend. A Megan's Law or Saha's Law will only ensure that say a youth convicted of exposing himself aged 18 and put on the sex offender's register will be hounded to death by indiscriminate and vindictive uncivilised members of society intent on killing and maiming and the Government cannot allow posse's to lynch these individuals.

However the people who are really really dangerous are those protected by secret societies and establishment paedophiles and there is a great deal of evidence to suggest that establishment paedophilia is endemic in the UK. The North Wales Children's Home some years ago had a special commission to investigate a very dubious police investigation into atrocities committed against children there. The Commission was given fraudulent dates when the abuse happened - fraudulently changed by authorities in Wales. so the children's evidence given the right dates of their abuse was then brought into question and their testimony invalidated as the Commission chose to believe the fraudulent dates and so brought all their testimony into doubt.

Operation Ore and various other paedophilia investigations (internet child porn) seems to have protected and 'lost' the names of several well connected individuals. I have heard of MP's from two parties who appear to have had access to children 'who don't matter' for their own particular form of perverted abuse. The Security Services in Northern Ireland were reputed to allow certain individuals access to children's homes in order to have some sort of blackmail hold over powerful people in the province.

This is the real issue - not Megan's Law.

Answer 4

Mr sceptic is spot on...and to be honest if you only want people to nod in agreement with your views then why pose the question and be critical of someone who makes reasoned argument?

In an ideal world we wouldn't have a need for Megans Law, and everyone would be able to move freely and safely through their lives.

Unfortunately, its not an ideal world, and offenders of all types roam the land. I fully agree that the men and women who perpetrate sexual crimes against children should receive harsh punishment. But all forms of punishment have to be properly administered

No doubt I will now be admonished for my opinions, but as mine are based on 22 years of experience in the justice system and 13 of those working with paedophiles and pederasts, I think that as such I can make sound judgement.

I await my fate!

Answer 5

Yes.
name every "Hands On" paedophile on the internet,
and then put in a brutal anti vigilante law.
Anyone who arracks a paaedophile should face an immeadiate spot fine on being caught. A fine which will make an indelible mark on their conscience, no messing about with courts and all that lawyer malarky, swift and brutal justice.
A spot fine of £10, no time to pay, no messing about, No oh I cant pay ,£10 per offence, with a 10% reduction for 10 or more..
That would sort the problem.

Answer 6

The law protects our children by keeping these sex offenders under surveillance.

If, by Megan's Law, you mean make the sex offenders' register a public document, you haven't thought it through.

Sex offenders, in fear of their lives, would assume new identities and disappear from the place they are supposed to be living. The police and probation service would have no idea where these people were, and wouldn't be keeping tabs on them. That would make children less safe. This is what has happened in the USA.

Offenders would still be in your area - you wouldn't know about them, but nor would the authorities.

The present system isn't perfect, but it's better than what you suggest.

I have just checked up on Megan's law - it only confirms my opinion. You are not actually concerned with protecting children, you are more concerned with vengeance against our nastiest and sickest criminals. I'm not saying they shouldn't be punished severely, but protecting children is more important than satisfying your bloodlust. Megan's law simply wouldn't protect children.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5102794.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/868281.stm

and if you don't trust me or the BBC, how about the NSPCC?

http://www.nspcc.org.uk/Inform/Research/Findings/MegansLaw_asp_ifega26197.html

Answer 7

Vigilantes that's who. Unless this country stops protecting the guilty and starts protecting us, then we are going to see vigilante attacks. They pay thousands to change the identities of paedophiles and child killers just to release them in to the communities again so that they can commit horrendous acts on the innocent. I say let the vigilantes get them and make them pay with a hideous death with torture first. Jail does nothing for them and they will never be cured. If any social worker has been involved with changing the identity of a paedophile or killer that has re-offended. They should be found guilty of aiding and abetting the paedophile/child killer and they should be sacked, publicly identified and never to work with children or any group classed as At Risk ever again. Te public would ensure they paid the price.

Answer 8

Absolutely not. Seriously, what would you do with the information? Everyone will up and move? Force the paedophile to move, when, in all fairness, he's presumably paid his debt to society and is now a free man?

You remember when The Sun decided it would be a good idea to start a similar campaign and a hoard of moronic tabloid readers ended up lynching a paediatrician?

All it will lead to is vigilantism, it's not worth it.

Answer 9

I cannot be alone in noticing that questions here that include the word "paeodophile" are answered in the most aggresive, thoughtless, and vengeful manner possible, while occasional sensible comments are overwhelmed by a morass of gut reaction.
Megan's law, in the States, and each State that has adopted it has it's own version, has, and continues to, cause massive problems. Vigilantism, ex-offenders moving with no further trace, all sorts of difficulties.
The "cut off their b***s" brigade do not think beyond the next second's violence. If that is truly your response, could you, should you, be surprised that large numbers of ex-offenders might "go missing" if such an act were brought in here.
Do those people look so closely at there own family? Most paedophile activity is proven to be familial - not just blood relatives, but to include family friends, neighbours, people known, usually for a long time, by the perpetrator.
As to North Wales, allow me a sardonic laugh, that "investigation" accused people of abusing kids in care homes who weren't in those care homes at the time of the allegations. It accused people of comitting offences at places they never worked in. It accused 365 people of abusing children, most of whom went through an invetigative hell for a period of years, and who were totally innocent, yet continue to suffer from a "no smoke without fire"mentality. 6 people were prosecuted - 6 out of 365, one for every day of the year - there were 2 convictions. Do we "cut off the b***s" of the 363 who, one of your repondees suggests, "got away with it"?
That, deeply flawed "investigation" has been the model for subsequent investigations throughoput the UK, and has resulted in countless ruined lives, with no blame, and hundreds of former care workers in jail who probably did no wrong. But - we better be ready to "cut off their b***s" when they come out.
Operation Ore was mis-directed by the American police, who fabricated evidence, and subsequently did not withstand a more scrupulous enquiry in the British courts. That people did, as a result, get away with downloading obscene images of children, I have no doubt, but their getting away with it is a fault of the police, at whose door all these matters should come to rest.
The police have to do a better job. They don't - Nottingham, Cleveland, North Wales, Orkney, Ore, Rochdale, etc - and should, but don't know better. They go for "easy" options, often led by social work ethics rather than rigorous investigative methods. They frequently make mistakes. They NEVER admit they did, and one of the problems is that they don't, because that denial of responsibility prevents them from re-examining what they do.
This has been a long rant, and I apologise for taking so much of the time of those of you, if any, who have got this far.
I think it's really scary that we are willing, as so called "rational" human beings, to respond to the rightful disgust and anger that we hold about these issues, in such extreme measure.

Answer 10

Difficult one.

Some poor paediatrician (honestly) got attacked some while back by vigilantees - and there's been people with the same name who have been victims of mistaken identity.

What would people do with the information? The authorities should protect our children rather than us taking it into our own hands.