Christians please read, im not being horrible?

Question

Hi, i am not trying to be nasty i am just curious about your religeon, so please dont be offended, my question is:

If someone abused and killed a loved one would you be able to forgive them as your religeon teaches you to do?, would you honestlt not question gods and jesus existence as such an awful thing had happened?, could you shrug your shoulders and say oh well it must have been part of gods plan?

the reason i ask is that a few christians have asked questions asking if in there heart of hearts do aethiests truely beleive there is no god, so i am asking this question to see if true christians still have doubt.

forgot to add, could you be in the same room as that person and smile at them and say i forgive you then turn the other cheek?

sorry to keep adding but the first few answers i got i would like to say thanks for your honesty.. keep the answers coming!

Answer 1

Right after I took care of business I would forgive him.

Answer 2

Put down your books and close them, its not that kind of class today. Today, we will learn about ourselves. You are the book and I need you to open that book now.

"The Cycle of Abuse"

When horrible things happen people get angry. Emotions take over. The primary response is hatred and revenge and the cycle begins. Some get angry at God, some say he doesn't care or that he doesn't even exist because how could he let something like 'this' happen. The reason Jesus addressed the issue of forgiveness is because it is the only way to stop the cycle of abuse. Most often abusers were abused and perpetrate it to their victims who become abusers who perpetrate it on their victims and so forth. Maybe because of my age and experience and level of understanding of human nature I do not get as angry as I once did. I still get angry at things but one of the first questions that comes to my mind is "What happened to him/her (the one who abuses)". Forgiveness for me begins as pity and sorrow because I have seen some really awful things in life. I had doubts when I was younger and to be sure, Forgiveness is the biggest hurdle in the Christian faith. The actual existence of God never actually crossed my mind personally though but I have been angry, very angry. Now I am older and things make sense.

Answer 3

Brother Jesus ask that we love or neighbor. That person would be our neighbor. We need not think further on this matter.

If this actually happened I would be sad and very upset of course, but that does not change anything.

I do not need to forgive because I no longer find fault. I realize that everyone exists as a part of God and to do otherwise I would have to see some part of God as being unacceptable.

How likely is this?

Love and blessings
don

Answer 4

Other people have done it. Why not me, besides, I have the hope of seeing them LIVE FOREVER in paradise on earth. Anything that goes on in this world is not God's fault... Satan is the ruler of this world. God has a plan, but it doesn't involve killing off human kind... his first objective when he designed the earth was to have it filled with man.....(remember, "Be fruitful, become many, and fill the earth and subdue it" Gen. 1:28) SO, why would he remove any hopes he had of filling the earth with righteous people... there are STILL good people in the earth...(But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. Psalms 37:11)

I cant wait.... however.. if you have any questions, the next time Jehovah's Witnesses call on your door, LISTEN.. they are not afraid to show you FROM THE BIBLE answers to any question you have. If they are unsure, they will do the research and get back to you....
Hope this helps... :0)

Answer 5

Well, I think that's a very important question to ask. Christianity teaches you to turn the other cheek, which means when someone does something to offend you, then you don't respond in like kind, but you instead give them another chance. If they choose to hurt you, it's their error, and it's not something that you have provoked.

I made a decision in my mind a long time ago that I would never get angry at God. To me it's ridiculous to be angry at God, because what's the point? He's not our equal, He responds to us from a place of infinite wisdom and infinite love. He will never do things that harm us. And, all the actions we experience in our lives are meant to strengthen us, not to cause us pain. I think that's one thing we must learn-- we need to change our perspective. The ppl who run around angry at God are looking at it from the wrong point-of-view.

Now, I've been angry with ppl. But, that too was unreasonable, because my anger was an attempt to control others, and to be honest, you can only control yourself.

I would not question God's existence. I think that needs to be done before you establish a relationship with God in the first place. That deep soul-searching of trying to figure out if God exists should definitely be done before forming a relationship. You make a commitment to believe that God loves you, in the beginning... and then, you know that what happens in the future isn't meant to kill you, and that God's always with you, whether you can feel His presence or not. It's not always going to be bread and roses, but that's no reason to lose faith in God.

If I was in the same room as someone who killed my loved one...? Well, I'm not going to lie to you, it would definitely take time for me to get over myself, and my initial anger at the person for doing what they did. But, it's our moral imperative, as Christians, to forgive, and to let God deal with everything. We can't be hateful, because we must believe that there's an inherent good in all ppl, and that by giving love to others, you receive it from them. Eventually, I would find compassion for that person, but it would only be God helping me that did it.

Answer 6

Any human will question God at times like this, But Christians will be more able to understand , then non christians, because after the pain has eased some the christian will call on God to help them to come to grips with the pain and help them to forgive, we realize that evil or satan is the one that does these acts of violance, and its satans way of destroying someones faith in God, if they let him.

Answer 7

I have no doubt that God exists. There are too many things that have happened to me, to not believe. I know it would be difficult to forgive someone who killed someone I loved. I could not just shrug my shoulders and say,"Oh well". It would take great strength and courage and unyielding faith, to overcome such a hardship. It is difficult to forgive, however it is more difficult to not forgive. I am a Christian, however I am not a traditionalist Christian. I believe in Reincarnation. If you study the true History of Christianty, you will find the early Christians believed in Reincarnation . When you believe in Reincarnation and the True teaching's of Christ, you know you have to forgive everyone, even the most evil. It is easy to forgive small sins. The true test of a devout Christian is to be able to forgive the most horrific sins. I see Christian's do this all the time. There have been Christian's who forgave their childrens murderer. It is a testimonial of their Faith and Love of God. One of my best freinds was brutally murdered, she was beaten, raped and sodomized, we still don't know who did it. That is a horrible thing to deal with. But, not once did I ever doubt God's exsistence, or blame him. I have forgiven her murderer. God has forgiven all my sins. However, I will have to come back in another life and be victim of the sins I comitted. Some traditional Chritian Sects believe if you accept Jesus and God as your savior all your sins will be wiped out. They say it is written in the Bible, they have to be spiritually Born Again in their present physical bodies to have their sins absolved. It is true, you have to be born again.Where they get it wrong is, your spirit has to be born again in another body after you die All the sins you committed on others you will be subjected to. Your not going to have all your sins wiped out not in one life time. It takes many lifetimes to evolve high enough spiritually to open your gate to heaven. It is'nt a free ticket to heaven when you testify you are a Christian and accept God and Christ as your savior.I know I am responsible for my own souls redemption or perdition, because believing in reincarnation I am the one who has to pays the piper.And yet when I pray with my whole heart and soul in complete submission, God has been with me in my darkest hours.God has performed miracles for me and has sent his angles to rescue me. Believe me, I know God exists.

Answer 8

No Doubt and Christ had all those awful things happen to him for a reason, it was god's plan, so if Christ didnt go through all this then he wouldnt be Christ and I wouldnt be Christian? It seemed like you already had the answer I dont know why you asked the question


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Answer 9

this would be a very difficult action to take as all Christians are
" human " and tend to follow basic mortal traits. In the Old Testament it said " an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. " there would be times many Christians would like to return to this passage in spite of what JESUS told us to do. Personally hope the person gets the harshest punishment according to the laws rules and mores of the culture and society in which we live. to personally forgive their actions would be highly doubtful.

Answer 10

It would be very difficult to forgive someone who murdered a loved one, but i would try. If they haven't repented or asked for forgivness or realized what they did was wrong, then i doubt i could ever forgive them. But if they realized that what they did was worng, and asked for forgivness, i could forgive them in time.

If they hadn't killed the loved one intentionaly, it would be far easier to forgive.

Answer 11

I'm afraid you misunderstand the Christian concept of forgiveness. There is no Scriptural source that requires Christians to forgive if there is no repentance on the part of the transgressor UNLESS the transgression was done to persecute us for our faith. However, Christians are still commanded to love our neighbor, which I'll go into more below.

For example, Jesus is quoted at Matthew 18:15-16 regarding the subject of the failure of a Christian transgressor to repent:

15 “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ 17 And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector."

Notice that the "sinning brother" fails to repent, despite the urging of many people. In the end, this brother is cast away from the body of believers. Jesus does not command forgiveness.

However, in the event a fellow Christian transgresses against another Christian, Jesus teaches we MUST forgive endlessly IF that person repents. Matthew 18:21 and 22 reads:

21 Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?”
22 Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven."

Jesus then goes on to tell the "Parable of the Unforgiving Servant" at verses 23-34. The Christian who refuses to forgive a repentant fellow Christian will be punished by God. Jesus delivers a similar message at Luke 17:3-4.

Although unbelievers are not our brothers (or sisters), they are our "neighbors," as Jesus discusses in the Parable of the Good Samaritan. Accordingly, Christians owe unbelievers forgiveness in the same way discussed above -- IF they repent from their hearts, regardless of any future transgressions.

The concept of conditional forgiveness is really a "picture" or illustration of the Grace Christians received from God at the moment of their Salvation. Just as we were forgiven BECAUSE we repented from our hearts, we must also forgive others who transgress against us, IF they also repent.

This does not mean that the Christian shouldn't love and pray for the unrepentant transgressor. In fact, we are commanded to do so. Jesus teaches this concept at Matthew 5:43-48:

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect."

With this in mind, the answer to your question depends entirely upon whether or not the transgressor has repented. If, and only if, the killer truly repented from his or her heart, the Christian should forgive. There is no commandment that implies forgiveness must come immediately, although this is advisable in order to avoid a bitter heart. However, the killing of a family member is a horrible thing and God understands we are weak; His own Son was killed unjustly, so He is in a unique position to understand. He would never hold it against a Christian who is honestly working on forgiveness, but is finding it difficult.

I hope this helps. Peace.