I was just searching...the Google search a favorite..
& I came across something..
something we hardly hear about, at least in terms of the nbr of deaths. We know our own government sort of hides things from us..... and so this "find" is only a partial list of dead contractors who were over there in Iraq trying to do good things ..all of them were not Americans, of course. But I'd never seen any figures....so I thought I'd take a look. maybe you want to take a look also....
so go to Google..........Type in: "Halliburton Contractor Deaths"
Hit "Search" button. You'll bring up list of sources/sites
Click: "Iraq Coalition Casualties, Contractor Deaths - A Partial List."
This list is from May 2004..thus the complete list to date is much higher we imagine.I'll probably look again at other sites, maybe tomorrow. .
I did the same for "Bechtel" lots of info.
most depressing is that the U.S. doesn't keep track of contractor deaths.
We left a lot of carrion back back in Iraq
2006-10-02
18:33:18
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Humm. The Quest. wasn't meant to start an argument. and I do not consider the info as being "false".. I wasn't chastising the government either .But the info lends credence to the suspicion that they hide a lot of other information from us.Such as, I just learned that they do not keep numbers re the number of mercenaries/special forces who are killed either. This wasn't a 'political' question. I add that I am neither Demo nor Repub nor defined under any political party either! I am 23, a female, educated and always seeking information and knowledge. As a rule, I seldom sip from a common cup of other people's knowledge. Instead, I gather my own from any number of sources. I find that the more I learn about any subject, the easier it is to distinguish between transparency and distortion, lies and truth, as well as honesty and deception.
I didn't post my question to make any particular point. I had just observed something...Some will be curious about it, others won't.
2006-10-02
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yes,, its true "civilian contractors get hired through a private company," but the private company in this case Halliburton, received government contracts, meaning Halliburton received government funds to pay these contractors who in turn pay their subcontractors, etc. And maybe they think we in the general public don't realize HOW MUCH MONEY THESE CONTRACTORS ARE or WERE MAKING as compared to the military. Hence IF they released the figures and people started looking at numbers, they just might start making comparisons. Money comparisons. Because many people know about Halliburton but the thousands that are employed in the Green Zone are faceless; they are just numbers; few ever see them. Most of us don't even know when they arrived there. Zeroing in on the numbers that have been killed just brings more attention to the difference between what these people are paid as compared to the admittedly paltry sum of money paid to our troops.
humm I guess you just don't get it.
2006-10-02
20:18:56 ·
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Yes, this is common place for casualties to be understated. Not only Contractor deaths, but civilian deaths are rarely heard. You don't hear of the ally military deaths either. You may find it sad, but military deaths are not all reported either. If troops are killed when not in actual combat, they are not in the "official" tally. Nor is "friendly fire" deaths. This skews the facts of the war that rages on only to keep a positive spin on the "Stay the Course" agenda. It's so sad.
When this first began, the names of the men and women who died that day were shown along with their rank and age, and the total number lost. They even showed the people who were allies from other countries who lost their lives, but no more.
The reason for all this coverup, is so citizens don't compare this war in Iraq, and Afghanistan to Vietnam.
Bring them home. Alive, and intact.
I support the troops, not the administration that placed them there.
Thanks. I'll look up some stuff too!
2006-10-02 18:53:48
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Yes, I'm more or less aware.
I do not understand what the goal of your post is....
First of all, members of the military are performing a job. They went into a contract with the government(which is...well...should be a represetative of you and me) and they are performing their "duty."
Contractors, well, they are paid around 3 times what they would get in the US. You can say "You cannot put a price on their lives." The truth is that they did. They accepted the pay. They are not forced to go perform that dangerous job. Their "duty" is to the companies which hire them.
I'm not a conservative, nor liberal. I am very skeptical regarding any governing body, and I am open to any new information that I can use to become more aware. But please, avoid "arguments" based upon such false premises such as this.
To Schona: Majority (overwhelming) of soldiers vote Republican. I'm not saying this is a good or a bad thing. This just proves what I said above: They chose to "serve" in the army, and the fact that they are voting republican means that they didn't change their mind since they enlisted (which shouldn't matter anyways).
2006-10-02 19:03:56
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answered by Anonymous
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Yes but what is your point to this. This one cant even be blamed on the goverment cause civilian contractors get hired through a private company.
When it comes to whether they got fired or killed or whatever else has nothing to do with the military. They took the job knowing that as soon as they get hired they would be headed over there. I guess it just goes to show that money aint worth everything seeing how those guys go over there with no combat and still get paid close to 100k/yr
2006-10-02 19:57:34
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answered by JB 4
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You do understand that in a guerilla war, things aren't exactly always civil. AKA, civilians are slaughtered, jihadists with bombs blow up mosques. Now I have a question for you. How many American Soldiers are in a mosque? Or perhaps the local town market? Or maybe a school? Chances are not too many, but what about civilians? Plenty in all three places. Also, in case you haven't seen, those video tapes that the broadcast of contractors and soldiers being beheaded...
2006-10-02 21:30:24
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I am currently writing a Theseus on contractors in Iraq. one of the major reasons is that there is little records for deaths is lack of regulation. There are Meany people working illegally. For one to be counted they must inform there embassy that there working there. For people from south Africa it is illegal for them to work in that industry so they cant just go to there embassy. It is a deep dark hole you are looking into i hope i helped you in your quest. unfortunately it is not some government conspiracy it is simply bad business.
o ya and now you would need to be a DET1 soc com operator to get the 2000 a day. the going rate is about $500 a day with a 10% bonus on completion of contract.
so it is not a huge amount of money for the risk.
2006-10-03 00:37:59
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answered by joel 2
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Libs do not opt to take heed to numbers like that they merely opt to take heed to regulate you could position self assurance in, and convinced we may be able to, and socialized well being care, and bigger taxes, and the warfare in Iraq and Afghanistan is failing and that our imperial troops are demise through the thousands it would surely get them indignant in case you revealed how a lot of those deaths were unintentional or organic causes.
2016-10-16 03:16:56
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Why should the US goverment be obligated to keep track of that? The contractors chose that lifestyle, and as you say not all of them are even Americans.
2006-10-02 19:12:45
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answered by michinoku2001 7
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It's not about a "war on terror" or "fighting for freedoms". It's REALLY all about THIS!...
http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Strayreality/iraq.htm
2006-10-03 09:23:04
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answered by Anonymous
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