Do atheists deny the existense of gravity before it was discovered? Science and religion?

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are both works in progress and don't need to deface each other. There are many scientific theories which over time have been debunked but in their day were considered fact. Do we know every law in the universe until such revelation what is not understood is god as humans generally question why do we exist? I donot understand why science and religion are warring in the west when they perfectly coexist in the eastern philosophies?

thats where your opinion is flawed, the falling of the apple was not evidence. It was not the first apple that fell. It was the realisation by a human of that phenomenon and questioning why?

Thats where you equate human sin and talk of morality as something to do with all religions when it is a unique aspect of abrahamic religions. There are wider philosophies out there and the quest for knowledge should be our goal.

That is not all religion look at hinduism with its emphasis on yoga for general wellbeing and feeling good. It has it's health benefits which cannot be denied.
When did you jump to being atheist before reading and understanding all religious philosophies? Just coz you are disillusioned with christianity's rule on material exitence and senses and organising people does not mean you should bag all religious philosophies!

Answer 1

Nope, but atheists do not necessary try to explain everything as the bible and Christianity does -- and not admit to any mistakes made in the past. Horrible mistakes like burning people at the stakes and drowning people for witchcrafts.

There seems to be a double standard amount Christians that says it is okay for them to question other believes, but not so the other way around. As such, I really do not understand how honest questions could be asked or answered if they continue to avoid them or explain them with irrational fantastic miracles and then claim them to be metaphors afterwards.

Answer 2

Gravity clearly "Existed" before it was "Discovered." There is a huge difference between science and religion. Science works like this: Everything seems to be drawn to the earth. Let's test whatever this force is and try to figure out what it is, come up with a set of rules that seems to govern its behaviour, then allow people to test these rules to see if they hold. Religion works like this: God makes things fall to the ground, because god makes everything happen; don't question the will of god or you'll burn in hell.

Answer 3

They wouldn't claim gravity exists without any evidence. Once postulated, we would test the theory to see if it is true. However, we would be ready to change our theories if any new contradictory evidence comes in.

Sorry, but not knowing something doesn't prove something else true. Not knowing how many came to be doesn't prove God exists. If it is true that God exists, perhaps someday we'll eventually get evidence of his existence. So far, there's nothing that convinces me he does. There is much evidence that God is man-made. So, I think I'll go with the evidence.

And you are correct in that evidence may be around us already for many things we don't yet know about. However, it takes us to realize what the evidence is and what it means for us to believe in its existence.

Answer 4

I'd have to jump in my handy-dandy time machine to find that out for you. No....I'm just joking...I don't have a time machine....had you going there though...didn't I?
No, it would be impossible for anyone to deny the existence of something that didn't even have a name and wasn't even conceptualized.
Much like God seems to have forgotten to invent time as well as gravity because to the people who made up the story these things were just there, unnoticed, with no need to be invented.....even air was just there....I don't remember seeing, "And God said, "Let there be air!" "

Answer 5

Well, science essentially is oblivious to god... and rightfully so. Science is looking for natural explanations for natural things. The presumption of science is that everything that can exist and anything that can occur in the universe is, by definition, natural... even if we cannot presently understand it or explain it. Again, this is as it should be.

Religion doesn't see it that way, though:

* At the bleeding edge of science, at the point where it REALLY starts to get interesting, SCIENCE says: "We don't know... OK, boys... let's roll up our sleeves, dig in and find out."

* At the bleeding edge of science, at the point where it REALLY starts to get interesting, RELIGION (imagine South Park - Officer Barbrady) says: "That's too complicated. God did it. Move along. Nothing to see here. Everybody go home now."

Religion exists in a strange netherworld between two logical fallacies (flaws in thinking)... the 'Argument From Incredulity' ("I can't understand how that might have come to be; therefore, God did it.") and the 'God of the Gaps' fallacy, also known as the 'Divine Fallacy'. The God of the Gaps lives at the bleeding edge of science... and religionists view the advances of science as an encroachment into their territory. They are at war, fighting a rear-guard action against the advance of scientists... and the preoccupied scientists, for the most part, don't even KNOW that they're in a fight.

Science doesn't attack god. That is true from the perspective of science... as I said, science is oblivious to god... he/she/it is simply out of scope. From the standpoint of the religiose, though, science is the mortal enemy. First they took away the earth being the center of the universe, and the focus and purpose of all creation... the god of the gaps got his butt whipped. Next thing you know, lightening is just an electrical discharge... not a manifestation of the wrath of god. The god of the gaps got his butt kicked again. Disease caused by germs, not demons. Ouch. Planets aren't wandering stars... they are bodies that orbit the sun. Whap. Stars aren't little lights placed on the firmament (the solid barrier between heaven and earth... i.e., the sky)... they are actually suns, like our own, unimaginably far away. God of the Gaps gets kicked right in the balls. And on, and on, and on. The God of the Gaps has NEVER won a fight with science... NOT ONCE. Every time there is a scrimmage between science and the God of the Gaps, another gap gets filled up with knowledge, and the God of the Gaps slinks away, with his tail between his legs. Earth isn't 6,000 years old... it's 4.5 BILLION years old. G of G gets kicked in the nuts again. And on and on... and on.

Well, they're tired of getting kicked in the nuts... so, they've changed tactics. Rather than fighting the battle on the basis of knowledge and evidence, they fight it on the basis of lies and misdirection. Science won't engage them... heck... it won't even acknowledge them. So, rather than engaging science, they just appeal to their constituency, which is scientifically ignorant for the most part, and feed them a bunch of plausible sounding pseudo-scientific lies. Take 'Intelligent Design'. The strategy is not to argue this on a scientific basis... it is to "Teach the controversy"... except in the scientific community, THERE IS NO CONTROVERSY. But their dumbass constituency doesn't go to the scientific community for their scientific information... no... they go to the people they TRUST... their SPIRITUAL LEADERS... and they get fed pseudoscience, misrepresentations and lies.

Willful ignorance, lies and delusions are winning. Science is losing. The God of the Gaps, FINALLY, is holding the line against knowledge, reason and critical thought.

So, while it is true that science doesn't attack god, that doesn't really matter... because as long as they PERCEIVE science (in general) to be an attack on god, we're going to be in an ongoing fight. At some point, in the near future, we need to wake up and realize that, or we're going to end up back in the Dark Ages.

Answer 6

Skepticsim is far safer and rational then blind belief.

The "war" in the west is due to ignorant theists trying to destroy science because it is a threat to their beliefs.

Btw, what did atheists have to do with this post? Nothing, seemingly.

Answer 7

Science is pretty good at not making claims unless there is strong evidence. Religions want you to have faith in beliefs that have no evidence, or worse, faith in beliefs where there is contradictory evidence. If Religion didn't do that, I wouldn't mind it nearly so much.

Answer 8

um, what?? Being an atheist has no longer something to do with politics... and we are no longer those denying reality. we are not those residing their lives in accordance to what some e book tells them to do and spend time and money worshipping some imaginary deity

Answer 9

LOL Good question