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For Christians it seems that, what St.Paul wrote is more important and believable than the words of Jesus (peace be upon him) himself. Jesus never talked about Trinity, he never said "I am God', he never said "Worship Me" in Bible. Yet still Christians want to believe it, why? because Paul said so....

So the question is, if Paul now pops up in front of you and say "Jesus (pbuh) is not God!", would you believe? If yes why if not why?

2006-10-02 12:42:37 · 10 answers · asked by ATK 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I value Paul's writings as some of the most early theology and understandings of the Christian people, but I give it as much weight as I do the writings of the other "Fathers of the Church." To me, Paul was a theologian and missionary and while he had some good things to say, he was also speaking to specific audiences, addressing specific situations, and operating out a good deal of his own cultural bias.

So no, I would not believe him if he just popped up and said that Jesus wasn't God. His words carry weight, but not that much.

2006-10-02 12:49:58 · answer #1 · answered by Church Music Girl 6 · 1 1

During the transfiguration, Jesus was present and transformed and was spoken to by His Father. Also, when Jesus was baptized, God spoke from Heaven and the Holy Spirit alighted on Him in the form of a dove. There is the Trinity.

Jesus never said "I am God", however he did agree whenever anyone asked if He was a king or God.

Jesus did not specifically say not to worship Him, however, He did tell people to drop what they were doing and follow Him. I would say that is a form of worship to drop everything about yourself and live for the rest of your life in service to Jesus/God.

Your last statement is hypothetical, not possible, and not even probable.

2006-10-02 12:50:18 · answer #2 · answered by bobm709 4 · 0 0

I'm a Christian, and the words of Paul were not his words, but what the Holy Spirit led him to write. If you believe that Jesus never talked about the Trinity, or claimed to be God, you better pick up a Bible. Jesus, though He never used the word Trinity, often spoke of the Father and the Holy Spirit, and spoke of them being one.. As far as claiming to be God, in John 10:30, Jesus said "I and the Father are one". Also in John, Jesus when talking with the Pharisees said "before Abraham was, I Am", a clear reference to His divinity. In Revelation, Jesus says "I Am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End".

Paul was clear in his writings, he wrote as led by the Holy Spirit, and he's not popping back up to say anything.

Jesus never asked anyone to worship Him, but He did accept worship, which should only be given to God. Jesus, in accepting worship, was admitting to be God.

2006-10-02 12:46:31 · answer #3 · answered by ted.nardo 4 · 1 2

You do not know much about Judaism and Christianity. Read the Bible. The life of Jesus was prophesied by Isaiah 700 years before Jesus was born. See especially Isaiah 53. Read Psalm 2. Another prophecy of the Anointed One from 1000 years before Jesus was born. Read the Book of Daniel -- Daniel Chapter 9 where the coming of the Messiah is predicted to the year -- 500 years before Jesus was born. Read Daniel chapter 7 where the "Son of Man" rides on the clouds of heaven and is brought into the presence of the Ancient of Days -- and is given eternal dominion over all creation.

When Moses was in the wilderness and God was speaking through the burning bush, Moses asked God what his name is. God told Moses that his name is "I AM" (see Exodus 3:14). In John Chapter 8, Jesus told the Pharisees that his (Jesus's) real name is I AM. The Pharisees were going to stone him because he blasphemed but Jesus escaped. I think that you should read John 8 in the Bible. In fact, I recommend that you read the entire Bible because I strongly suspect that you have never read it and understood it. John 8:24 -- "I say therefore unto you, that you will die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am He, you shall die in your sins."

The Transfiguration of Jesus in Matthew 17 is the revelation of the Glory of God to Peter, James, and John, and it mirrors the incident of Exodus 33 where the Glory of God passes before Moses. That is why Moses appears at the Transfiguration.

Jesus makes so many references to himself as God that I do not want to spend all night explaining them to you. I hope that you will take the time to really understand Christianity before you judge it. I highly recommend the resources at Ligonier Ministries and the teachings of Dr. R. C. Sproul. You should at least educate yourself before you make decisions that will affect your eternal destiny.

2006-10-02 13:47:19 · answer #4 · answered by ANDYMAN 2 · 0 0

Actually Paul said that Jesus wasn't God.

1 Cor 11:3, Jehovah is above Jesus the same as Jesus is above Man.

They didn't listen when Jesus said to worship his Father, why do you expect them to listen to Paul?

p.s. I am a christian.

2006-10-03 05:41:53 · answer #5 · answered by TeeM 7 · 0 0

Read Revelation 2:18, where Jesus says He is the Son of God.

Jesus Christ is the Son of the Living God! You need to study the Bible and learn the truth. Then maybe you will stop asking stupid questions.

2006-10-02 15:06:44 · answer #6 · answered by Not perfect, just forgiven 5 · 0 0

This is Mark, Chapter 10

10:33-34 - "We are now going up to Jerusalem," he said, "as you can see. And the Son of Man will be betrayed into the power of the chief priests and scribes. They are going to condemn him to death and hand him over to pagans who will jeer at him and spit at him and flog him and kill him. But after three days he will rise again."

These are Jesus' words here... He is talking about Himself here... This is Jesus telling us that He is to be worshiped... He is saying He is the Son of God... He also says, like a million times... "no man can come to God but through me..." He also says that no human has authority to forgive sins but He says "the Son of Man has full authority to forgive sins on earth..." And He forgives many people....

I wouldn't believe Paul if he said that Jesus was not the Son of God... I only listen to God not man... unless the man is backed up by God.

2006-10-02 13:07:34 · answer #7 · answered by ToYkaT04 3 · 0 0

One college of idea is that Jesus' training rivaled the administration of Caesar Augustus, emperor of the Roman Empire, who develop into allegedly the son of Apollo and a human mom. even as the gospels were written down, 1/2 a century after Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection, it gave the impression of the logical challenge to the writers of the synoptic gospels to make Jesus also the son of the Jewish God and a human mom. Doing so also made Jesus' beginning fulfill the prophecy that a touch one boy might want to be born in Bethlehem who might want to be the savior of his human beings. in the Gospel of John, there is not any beginning tale and John smartly addresses the challenge of Jesus' divinity through pointing out that Jesus develop into one with God from the starting up. there is also the genuine element that God decreed that "you shall don't have the different gods earlier me," so worshiping the resurrected Jesus as a deity grew to develop into tricky till he develop into co-equivalent with God. the first followers of Jesus were Jewish. Peter's challenge develop into to paintings with Jews who had keen to maintain on with Jesus; Paul of Tarsus' challenge develop into to take the note to the Gentiles in Greece and elsewhere. obviously, Paul develop into extra useful, and his is the widely used voice we listen echoing down the centuries. understand that "the Jews" aren't any further a homogeneous community of people. there are a variety of of diverse beliefs and many diverse factions interior Judaism. They probable have as many differences between their a variety of of branches because the Christian church's a variety of of denominations have or the a number of branches of Islam have.

2016-12-04 03:47:57 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Nope.


If i told you that allah told himself that he praised himself would you believe in the Quaran?



1: The Opening

1:1 In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful. Who is the author of the Quran?
Is Allah kind and merciful?
1:2 Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds,
1:3 The Beneficent, the Merciful.
1:4 Master of the Day of Judgment,
1:5 Thee (alone) we worship; Thee (alone) we ask for help.
1:6 Show us the straight path,
1:7 The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not the (path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray.

2006-10-02 12:50:12 · answer #9 · answered by whynotaskdon 7 · 1 2

Mohammad also said to spread peace and love throughout the world..but Muslims think he means to kill non Muslims. So you see, no matter what the prophets teaches, man will still twist their words to suit their purpose.
One more thing.....instead of trashing Christians for what they believe, maybe you can stand boldly and condemn your Muslim brothers who abuse their women and kill each other.

2006-10-02 12:52:09 · answer #10 · answered by Roxton P 4 · 1 2

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