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Question

To evaluate the three traditional sayings listed below. Are the sayings valid? Were they ever valid? Why or why not? What are the arguments for and against?

1. "Spare the rod and spoil the child."



2. "Children should be seen and not heard."



3. "A woman's place is in the home."

Answer 1

All three of these were common folk wisdom up and until the "romantic revolution" of 1780-1810, in which poets Blake, Wordsworth and Coleridge changed our interpretation of children and ou notion of paternity. Outside the English-speaking world, these three rules are still regarded as unquestionably wise.

1. Sparing the rod does indeed spoil the child. The question is whether the use of spanking, even when justified, alienates and embitters the child. I don't think modern psychology has resolved this issue. If parents spare the rod and are proud of it , they might exact revenge in other ways, through verbal abuse or constant belittlement, for example, which I think are worse than spankings -- since this is how I was raised.

I don't have children, but I think I would spank a child for activity which was dangerous to the child's safety or to the safety of playmates. I would try ruthlessly to compliment a child honestly ten times more often then critisizing or berating the child.

2. Children should be seen and not heard -- this is stating that children should be silent ornaments when a guest is in the house, so the guest sees the children but the children are silent observers. This is how I was raised. Becoming an auditor of adult conversation is a tremendous discipline to instill in a child. I endorse this approach if it is instruction coming from love, because children do not lose their ability to observe if it is taught this way to them when they are young.

3. ONE of the places where women belong is in the home, in that there is no real substitute for motherhood. There is a natural mutual affiliation between mothers and their children. For the Japanese, a woman's place is in the home and they have a very stable society making stupendous technological progress.

However, an angry and contentious woman should have a working career. A woman who doesn't trust her husband or is unsure of the stability of her marriage should have a career, and a brilliantly talented woman should have a career, also.

Answer 2

1 Spare the Rod spoil the child is a loose translation from the bible, I believe in reasonable chastising, any parent who loves their child knows how far is 2 far.
2 In Victorian Times the Children of the Upper classes were considered an asset as long as they were quiet.
Thankfully every1 loves 2 hear children play & this 1 isn't wanted anymore.
3 Good god that's straight out of the Fifties!
Men wanted their women 2 return 2 the Homemakers/Raising Children after the chaos of 2 world-wars
& the lack of jobs 4 men let alone Women.
Did we really chain ourselves 2 railings 2 get a vote, learn 2 drive & make Laws, just 2 say we should have stayed at home?
No, thought not.

Answer 3

I'd say that, generally speaking, all three are invalid.
1. Of course, if the "rod" mentioned in the first saying is metaphorical (i.e. not a real rod used to administer physical punishment), then I'd say Number One is valid.
When a child misbehaves, especially if he/she does so in extreme fashion, then some type of punishment should be administered. But physical punishment is not only the least effective - and can be psychologically damaging - but it can be even illegal, depending upon the severity of the physical punishment.
2. Why shouldn't children be heard? They may have something valuable to contribute. Of course, if they're constantly interrupting, they do need to be reminded about proper manners. But to issue a blanket command for children's silence makes no sense at all.
3. Boy is this 3rd one "outdated." A "homemaker's" place may be in the home, if that's what a person (man or woman) chooses (and is able) to do. But nowadays,
there are fewer and fewer women who, even if they wanted to be full-time homemakers, can afford to do so. Women have as much "right" to a career outside the home as men do - and it's unfortunate that, even today, in so-called "advanced countries", women often get paid less for doing the same job as men.

Answer 4

Spare the rod.... dont use a rod... spoil the child... give the child all they need, love and affection opportunities for learning, etc. Some bible thumpers will tell you that it means beat your kid, but I say it mens dont beat your kid.
Children at some times are supposed to behave and be quiet. This does not mean that ALL the time they should.
A womans place is in the home. Yeah, sometimes. A woman should take care of her home and family, thats all that means.

Answer 5

I don't understand number one sorry.

Number two is expressing that children don't undertand in life to give advice themselves therefore they should listen to the adults around them to gain understanding and guidance from them. Especially this quote is from a Behaviorist point of view which dictates that children don't have cognitive thoughts until they understand and learn some form of language. Also it is believed by the Behaviorist that you are taught things soley on the bahavior of others. (this does not say that you can't teach yourself something) simply that people learn from other people.

Yes, very much, I think that children should listen to adults.

As for number three it is very controversial and I would infer that I am a 21 yr old male that believes this to be true. Not to say that women cannot have multiple roles but especially as their young are shaped in the first five years of their life they should be nurtured by their mothers in the home setting. They should not be raised if at all possible in a daycare or at the babysitters.

After the five or so years are up women should do that which is agreed upon by both husband and wife... key COMMUNICATION!

Answer 6

1) If you don't discipline a child from early on, it gets harder and harder to do as time passes.

2)Children must learn to keep thir mouth shut, and speak only when it is the proper time, and not give any lip tyo the parents, or elders. This is also a part of discipline.

3) A woman's place can be anywhere she wants it to be. Slavery has been abolished over a century ago.

Answer 7

1. is valid 2. is just mean 3. is partially valid if that is where the woman wants to be.

Answer 8

1 was valid when wipping children was accepted
2 was valid when childeren weren't being listened too
3 valid now, but more when women mainly stayed at home

Answer 9

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Answer 10

1. I believe in discipline if necessary
2. that saying is for men not children
3. a women place is anywhere she wants to be