What is the trinity?

Question

it sounds like polytheism to me, how can it make sense for someone to God, Son of God, and the Holy Spirit at the same time
i dont want to hear the egg or the water analogy, bc then all i have to say is that why did Jesus refer to God as a different entity continuously, for example when Jesus(pbuh) was being crucified why did he say "Why hast thou forsaken me," if he, according to many ppl, was God. And if he was dying for our sins, it doesnt sound like he was too eager. If you insist he was God, i dont believe in an all-powerful God whos at the mercy of a bunch of human beings when he was being crucified

Answer 1

FOR WHY HAST THOU FORSAKEN ME:
“And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46). Here, Jesus was expressing His feelings of abandonment as God placed the sins of the world on Him – and because of that had to “turn away” from Jesus. As Jesus was feeling that weight of sin, He was feeling separated from God for the only time in all of eternity. It was at this time that 2 Corinthians 5:21 occurred, “God made Him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.” Jesus became sin for us, so He felt loneliness and abandonment - separation from God.


ON THE TRINITY:
The word "Trinity" is not used in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God, the fact that there are 3 coexistent, co-eternal persons that make up God. Understand that this is NOT in any way suggesting 3 Gods. The Trinity is 1 God made up of 3 persons. There is nothing wrong with using the term "Trinity" even though the word is not found in the Bible. It is shorter to say the word "Trinity" than to say "3 coexistent, co-eternal persons making up 1 God." If this presents a problem to you, consider this: the word grandfather is not used in the Bible either. Yet, we know there were grandfathers in the Bible. Abraham was the grandfather of Jacob. So don't get hung up on the term "Trinity" itself. What should be of real importance is that the concept that is REPRESENTED by the word "Trinity" does exist in Scripture.
1) There is one God: Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5.

2) The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for "us" is used. That "Elohim" and "us" refer to more than two is WITHOUT question. In English, you only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms - definitely more than two - and must be referring to three or more (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of 3 distinct persons in the Trinity.

3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages: In the Old Testament, "LORD" is distinguished from "Lord" (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The "LORD" has a "Son" (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). Spirit is distinguished from the "LORD" (Numbers 27:18) and from "God" (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, John 14:16-17 is where Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit. This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all of the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another person in the Trinity - the Father.

4) Each member of the Trinity is God: The Father is God: John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2. The Son is God: John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God: Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16 (The One who indwells is the Holy Spirit - Romans 8:9; John 14:16-17; Acts 2:1-4).

5) The subordination within the Trinity: Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship, and does not deny the deity of any person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see: Luke 22:42; John 5:36; John 20:21; 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see: John 14:16; 14:26; 15:26; 16:7 and especially John 16:13-14.

6) The tasks of the individual members of the Trinity: The Father is the ultimate source or cause of: 1) the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); 2) divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); 3) salvation (John 3:16-17); and 4) Jesus' human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father INITIATES all of these things.

The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: 1) the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); 2) divine revelation (John 1:1; Matthew 11:27; John 16:12-15; Revelation 1:1); and 3) salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent.

The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: 1) creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); 2) divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); 3) salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and 4) Jesus' works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Instead of focusing on the Trinity, try to focus on the fact of God's greatness and infinitely higher nature than our own. "Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out! Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his counselor?" (Romans 11:33-34)
Remember, our thought are not His thoughts, and our ways are not His ways. Just because we cannot view this with our feeble human minds, do not try to put a limit on God's. He created you.
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Answer 2

Well...against many peoples beliefs, I will say what the so called "Trinity" is, according to what I've studied in the Bible. First of all, the word, "Trinity" does NOT appear in the Bible. It is a conclusion that people assume, based on man made ideas. The Bible does talk about the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These are 3 separate beings, but all 3 are a part of the same God being.
God the Father, is a Spirit, not a male or a female. (surprising to some) Spirits do not have a gender; and God the Father is comprised of both male and female traits, but still a spirit. ( In the days of the Bible writings, there was no word used to illustrate "it", so words like "He, and the "Father" were used.)
Jesus the Son, was God's spirtual son, who became human, physical, to show us how to walk the way He did, and to be our Savior. Some people of the world will someday find out that Jesus IS the Messiah!
The Holy Spirit...contrary to popular belief, the Holy Spirit is NOT a person!!! It's a spirit, as the Bible calls it. It is also called the "Comfortor" by God and by Christ. It is that little invisible voice, that helper, that inner something that helps to keep us on the right track, especially after we have allowed Jesus into our hearts.
As for the second part of your question, Jesus died for all of us, and God allowed it...it was the only way, and no, God, or Jesus was not at the mercy of human beings in the sense that it's all part of God's plan of Salvation for humans. I'm sure Jesus was not eager, He even called upon God, but Jesus knew that God was allowing the crucifiction, for all mankind.
Hope this helps..

Answer 3

The word "Trinity" comes from the Latin noun "trinitas" meaning "three are one." "Trinity" expresses the belief that God is one Being made up of three distinct Persons who exist in co-equal, co-eternal communion as the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

The doctrine or concept of the Trinity is central to most Christian denominations and faith groups, although not all. Among churches that reject the doctrine of the Trinity are The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists, Christian Unitarians, the Unification Church, the Christadelphians, and Oneness Pentecostals, as well as others.

Although the term "Trinity" is not found in the Bible, most Bible scholars agree that its meaning is clearly expressed.

These are some of the verses expressing the concept of the Trinity - Matthew 3:16-17, Matthew 28:19, John 14:16-17, 2 Corinthians 13:14, Acts 2:32-33, John 10:30, John 17:11&21.

Answer 4

The Holy Trinity is difficult for alot of people to understand. I'm a 'cradle' Catholic and it's hard to explain it to people when they ask- for me it is something that I have accepted on faith alone.

Maybe this will help- 'Another way to approach the mystery of the Trinity is to reflect on God as three persons: Father,Son and Holy Spirit. But we must not think of person in the same sense as we are persons. There are not three separate consciousnesses in God. There is only one simple being. There are not three separate intelligences or wills in the one God. When one person of the Trinity acts, the other two persons also act. Each person is distinct but does not act separately from the others. God is one, a community in unity. God acts as one, though we appropriate or attribute certain actions to each of the persons; for example, creation to the Father, redemption to the Son and sanctification to the Holy Spirit. Traditional Catholic teaching explains the relationships among the three persons of the Trinity this way: The Father, the first person of the Trinity is absolutely without origin. From all eternity he 'begets' the Son, the second person of the Trinity. The Son, is the Father's perfect, divine expression of himself, the Word of God. They are one yet distinct. The Holy Spirit. The love that proceeds from the Father and Son is the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Love between the father and Son ; the Spirit binds them into a community of unity.' From the Seeker's Catechism by Michael Francis Pennock.

Answer 5

The word Trinity meaning 3. It's simple if you think of it this way. God the Father , Jesus the son, but still God in human form, and the Holy Spirit, the part of God that dwells in the hearts of believers.

Being a Christian I understand this concept. Other religions view God differently, It doesn't mean that one is right and one is wrong it simply means we all have freedom of choice.

Peace

Answer 6

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit is like the soul, the body and the works in a single person.

This is written in the Athanasian Creed but the Nicean Creed lends itself to polytheism interpretations that are wrong.

FAQ from my website:

FAQ: Do Swedenborgians believe in the Holy Trinity?


"The idea of God, with all conception of Him, having been thus rent asunder, it is my purpose to treat, in their order, of God the Creator, of the Lord the Redeemer, and of the Holy Spirit the Operator, and lastly of the Divine trinity, to the end that what has been rent asunder may be again made whole; which is done when the reason of man is convinced by the Word and by light therefrom that there is a Divine trinity, and that the trinity is in the Lord God the Savior Jesus Christ, like the soul, the body, and what goes forth from these, in man; and that thus this article in the Athanasian Creed is true:"

"In Christ God and man, or the Divine and the Human, are not two, but are in one person; and as the rational soul and the flesh are one man, so God and man are one Christ." -- True Christian Religion n.4[3]:

Answer 7

The trinity is a false teaching based on Plato's understanding of pagan beliefs.

It is not taught in the bible.

rs p. 405 pars. 1-2 Trinity ***
The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

*** rs p. 406 par. 1 Trinity ***
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.

(Romans 15:4-6) . . .” 4 For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope. 5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant YOU to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had,

6 that with one accord YOU may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Are you glorifing the God and Father of Jesus?

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Answer 8

There is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. They are 3 entities forming the Trinity.

Jesus came as man so that he could represent all mankind. When he was on the cross, he was carrying the sins of the whole world and that was when God's judgement fell on Him.

Jesus cried out to God because He was alienated from His Father as a result of the judgement he was subjected to on the cross.

A great exchange took place at the cross: Jesus took our sins so that we are now totally forgiven; His body was striped and beaten so that we can receive healing; He lost fellowship with God the Father so that we can now call God our Abba Father; He died in our place so that we will have life eternal.

It wasn't the soldiers who put him on the cross. Jesus wasn't murdered. He gave Himself up willing for that was His sole mission. He was born to die for you and me.

Answer 9

You are Islamic, aren't you ? If so your question isn't seeking knowledge, it is to create argument.

Oh well ! The Trinity or Godhead as it is refereed to in Scriptures is the Triune Nature of Almighty God. They are Three Distinct Personality's in the One God. While in His Earthly Form Jesus did Pray to The Father, that's because in His Human Form He was Isolated from The Father.
He said "...Why have you forsaken me?" because when He took upon Himself the sin of all mankind, the Father had to turn away from Him.

Answer 10

The Trinity is God in three Persons - The Godhead - three entities, all Spirit of God but with three different purposes/tasks.

Father God - Creator
Son, Jesus - God incarnate, Savior
Holy Spirit - Comforter, God in us

Like water, ice, steam - all three water but different. I hope this helps.