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no offense meant btw.
in response to "If there is no afterlife, does that make this life less meaningful? Why or why not?"

atheists seem to live normally even without expecting an afterlife, but christians need something so that they can do good? cant they do better with a therapist? although i think a therapist is more expensive "in the short run"... not to mention most christians i know are poor and/or sick(or has a sick relative) and/or old and mosly female, is there a pattern there?

the question was meant for people who converted to christianity. people born in christian families are not included, unless they speak in behalf of their family's history.

of course i know that some of you do good because your life has been changed after knowing jesus but what was your life story?

thanks for dropping by.

2006-10-01 13:58:02 · 4 answers · asked by lnfrared Loaf 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Before I became a Christian good was not in my vocabulary. I was living for myself, and if you crossed me I'd beat the sh*t out of you. My heart was hard and dark, I felt nothing for anyone other than myself. When Jesus revealed Himself to me, my hardness hurt soooo deeply that it broke my cold heart. I was like a nut He cracked open. He has given me a new heart, and I can feel in areas I never knew existed. I am able to do good now because He has shown me what good is. Without Him I was lost in selfishness and darkness.

2006-10-01 14:06:33 · answer #1 · answered by Dragon Sword 2 · 0 0

you dont know many christians or those who have converted their lives over. let me ask this are there any atheist who are not sick? i am sure if they arent then they have a relative who is something is wrong with everyone whether it be them it be there relative, no one is scott free of ailment. we all have a trial in this life and before i was born again i cant say i had no reason to live or cared whether i lived or died i wanted to know that there was a a reason for being here. and no matter what i go through in this lifetime i have a prize at the end that i may live forever, that is that my soul will. for the promise that was giving to me. how do i know that? because the word tells me so. how do you not know that.? can you prove him wrong? i can prove his word right through experiences i have been through, and far as the ailments, you know most are for the glorifying of his name. his goodness, meaning when healing is at hand he shows his goodness and miracles thru those that he choses, and then there are those who have the sins of the fathers past on down generation to generation. to believe it or not there are those who have found an enemy in God and refuse to ask for forgiveness and they are cursed. God Loves all true, but he does have commandments and things that he hates, and the fact that he is a jealous God. i have no regrets and i feel it better being a christian not that i would condemn any i am not here for that. i am not saying all days are good days, no way sometimes i wanna just jump off the world. some days are so hectic, and harder than anything i ever exp. but the ending result is worth it. what do i mean. when i persevere, when i stand and go thru the hard times and pray and i mean some down on the ground praying, and i wait on God to answer and turn the situations around then i feel rewarded. my days are not perfect, noones days are and if so i would love for them to speak up cause they are straight lying. we all look for some sort of higher being or something to console us or account for life. the deity of God has proven to me in more ways than one that my walk with him is well worth it. i came from the streets, homeless, raped, abused, misused, from poor to riches in him to be happy with my so called conversion. Thank You Jesus

2006-10-01 21:07:26 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Well, I don't think all christians live a worthless life. To answer your question about christian doing "good" things: I don't know if as a christian you do good things because you want to, or because you are scared of the repercussion you might get in the afterlife if you don't.

2006-10-01 21:06:26 · answer #3 · answered by Olivier P 3 · 0 1

Fools Despise Wisdom and Instruction

Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Proverbs 1:20 Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:
21 She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,
22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?
23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.
24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

Proverbs 5:3 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword.
5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
Proverbs 5:8 Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:
9 Lest thou give thine honour unto others, and thy years unto the cruel:
10 Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth; and thy labours be in the house of a stranger;
11 And thou mourn at the last, when thy flesh and thy body are consumed,
12 And say, How have I hated instruction, and my heart despised reproof;
13 And have not obeyed the voice of my teachers, nor inclined mine ear to them that instructed me!

Proverbs 9:7 He that reproveth a scorner getteth to himself shame: and he that rebuketh a wicked man getteth himself a blot.
8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.

Proverbs 12:1 Whoso loveth instruction loveth knowledge: but he that hateth reproof is brutish.

Proverbs 13:1 A wise son heareth his father's instruction: but a scorner heareth not rebuke.

Proverbs 15:10 Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die.

Proverbs 15:12 A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise.

Proverbs 17:10 A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.

Proverbs 18:1 Through desire a man, having separated himself, seeketh and intermeddleth with all wisdom [NKJV: A man who isolates himself seeks his own desire; he rages against all wise judgment].
2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself [RSV: but only in expressing his own opinion].

Proverbs 23:9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.

Proverbs 27:22 Though thou shouldest bray a fool in a mortar among wheat with a pestle, yet will not his foolishness depart from him.

Proverbs 29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

Proverbs 29:9 If a wise man contendeth with a foolish man, whether he [NKJV: the fool] rage or laugh, there is no rest.

Ecclesiastes 4:13 Better is a poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king, who will no more be admonished.

Isaiah 26:10 Let favour be shewed to the wicked, yet will he not learn righteousness: in the land of uprightness will he deal unjustly, and will not behold the majesty of the LORD.

Isaiah 29:20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:
21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.

Jeremiah 2:30 In vain have I smitten your children; they received no correction: your own sword hath devoured your prophets, like a destroying lion.

Jeremiah 5:3 O LORD, are not thine eyes upon the truth? thou hast stricken them, but they have not grieved; thou hast consumed them, but they have refused to receive correction: they have made their faces harder than a rock; they have refused to return.
4 Therefore I said, Surely these are poor; they are foolish: for they know not the way of the LORD, nor the judgment of their God.

Jeremiah 7:23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
24 But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.
25 Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt unto this day I have even sent unto you all my servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them:
26 Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers.
27 Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee.
28 But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth.

Amos 5:10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.
Amos 5:13 Therefore the prudent shall keep silence in that time; for it is an evil time.

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.


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2006-10-01 21:24:22 · answer #4 · answered by JESUS loves 4 · 0 1

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