Do you want to see what Mexicans in Mexico are saying about the fence? You might be surprised?

Question

" At the beginning of every school year, bad news comes from Mexican heartland states such as Zacatecas and Queretaro: Local authorities are closing hundreds of schools because so many families have moved north to the United States.

Mexicans feel helpless before the migrant exodus, and talk about it the same way they talk about the weather. Everyone complains about it, but there's not much you can do about it.

On Friday night, the U.S. Senate approved a 700-mile-long border wall in a bid to stop the immigrant flow. The decision has left many Mexicans wondering whether the open door to the north may slowly be closing.

Some Mexicans saw the vote as a collective slap in the face that highlighted the failure of their country's leaders to give Mexicans a reason to stay home.

Latin Americans see the congressional initiative as a rejection of the cultural changes brought forth by Latinos in the United States. In angry editorials and speeches, Mexican writers and politicians have compared the border fence project with the Berlin Wall and the Great Wall of China.

For decades, social scientists here have seen migration to the north as a "safety valve" that keeps Mexico from exploding into social conflict. Now, a small number of voices are saying the brain and muscle drain to the U.S. cannot continue indefinitely.

When the head of Mexico's central bank told a Texas newspaper last week that a new wall between the United States and his country might not be such a bad thing, his remarks were front-page news here. Surprisingly, there were few public expressions of disagreement.

"It would be best to keep its people in Mexico, and it would give incentives for Mexico to create jobs that are needed," Guillermo Ortiz, the bank official, said in an interview with the editorial board of the Dallas Morning News."

Others say the fence will just bottle more up here, rather than letting them return.

However, views on the fence are very mixed.

What do you think?

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-wall1oct01,1,3494443.story

nightworker - even the bottlenecks of tunnels and fence cuts would dramatically reduce the flow. And there will be sensors and camaras in the areas without fences.

Alberto, granted that cutting off the employment and benefit magnets would work better, there has been a spike in crossings since Bush started talking about 'comprehensive' reform, and the will to go after employers and benefits seems very slow in forming. I frankly would hate to have a fence on a river if I had a water view, and wish we had better options being given us. But what do you see on the table?

Answer 1

Dar, I respect you since you are one of the few people that don't insult or make up stories about your views. So therefore I'm going to just explain a little about why SOME Mexicans are against this wall. Yes, they are the people that just wish to just have open borders so people can continue coming through that way. But then, there's also people that are opposed to a wall because that wall is going to be the "Ugly Face" of America against the border. I know and I agree that the U.S. has all the right to do whatever it wants to protect its country, however I think that they can control this a lot more effectively without putting that ugly image of America at its entrance. People are going to find a different way of coming in illegally as long as there's no Immigration reform from what is now. Yes its going to slow the process for just a little while meanwhile these organizations re-group and find a different strategy. Did you know people coming trough the border are being brought by organized people making a living out of this? The people crossing over are just told what and where to go. The planning comes from people that do this for a living and can very much be U.S. Citizens. I don't mean to sound rude but personally, I think that this wall is going to harm America more than help it.

It goes a lot further than a nice view of a river. Its a psychological reaction of an action that persoanlly Im afraid of the Mexican people. I support immigration being done the right way. If the conditions werent to be as harsh to become not a citizen, but just to come to this country, contribute to it, the immigrant would benefit from it then go back and re-apply again meeting certain criterias. A guest working programm sounds more beneficial to everybody in both countries. Its too much too talk about it here, but on a different note, I personally think that this wall is just is a front to say "yes we are doing something about it". Specially 5 weeks before elections still contolled by the Republicans. I also do believe that a guest working programm is near and a reasonable solution.

Answer 2

The Fence is a good thing for both. This will force the Mexican people to deal with the issues in Mexico, and deal with the politics in Mexico. When we can stem the tide and get the deportations higher than the illegals streaming in then we have something. I know if Cuba ever regains freedom, there will be a sucking sound of Cubans leaving Miami in droves to return to their homeland.

Answer 3

Finally a logical post from the Mexican point of view. It seems so obvious that people leaving your country by the thousands upon thousands is a sign that things are not good and need to get better. They can not get better if the people continue to run away instead of staying back and actually trying to fix the problems that exist. It's amazing to me that Mexicans can't see the light.

Answer 4

Well it's a start of closing up the border. You also didn't mention the the Mexican president said it would hurt the relationship with the US. To me our relationship with Mexico already been hurt because the Mexican government didn't want to do anything to help stop the illegal from coming into the US.

Answer 5

I think the fence was a 1st small step - not a particularly good one but a step.... I think if the "elected class" from the local to the federal would repeal the 14th amendement and cut off social services we would not need a fence!

Answer 6

There is law. Laws are made to resolve. There is no resolve when laws aren't enforced. The fence will be an effective tool in the attempt to enforce the law. This is a neutral tool that can't be called prejudice, sued for racial profiling, prosecuted for hate crime, Kill or injure invaders, or be insensitive. A fence is so neutral that to cross it illegally should be an offensive crime on so many levels in either direction. To destroy or damage the fence should be a crime on both sides. With a fence or barrier their is no accuse of crossing the border by accident and that you are in complete contempt of the law. Federal" a-fence". A little joke there, sorry.

Answer 7

I think the wall will force Mexican Government to step up and improve Mexico. If Mexicans come here speaking Spanish and bragging about their country with pride, why are the running from home illegally? It will also force our government to give financial, medical and food aid to our citizens without handing out to illegals. I feel for those in Mexico as their country is run down and their government has money to fix it up but we are getting run down by illegals and it needs to stop.

Answer 8

a fence is not going to keep them out,the've proved that with numerous tunnels we've found.also they can just cut through it,or climb or dig under it.its a waste of time & money.

Answer 9

I hope the fence helps both countries in the long run.

Answer 10

Yes it's getting extra intricate. This is a pleasant article, thanks. It will have to be much more intricate to get right here illegally and am joyful our borders are extra cozy now days.