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The rapture is in the Bible, but pre-trib is a cunninly devised fable made up by men who twist and bend the scriptures to make them seem to support pre-trib. If you want to know the real relationship of the rapture to the great tribulation, read Matthew 24:29-31... oh yeah, and key word? "After"

2006-09-30 20:37:28 · 8 answers · asked by skypiercer 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

8 answers

yes

2006-09-30 20:39:27 · answer #1 · answered by norm s 5 · 1 0

Rapture... the end of the world...

According to this doctrine, when Christ returns, all of the elect who have died will be raised and transformed into a glorious state, along with the living elect, and then be caught up to be with Christ. The key text referring to the rapture is 1 Thessalonians 4:16–17, which states, "For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord."

Virtually all Christians hold that the Second Coming will be preceded by a time of great trouble and persecution of God’s people (2 Thess. 2:1–4). This period is often called the tribulation. Until the nineteenth century, all Christians agreed that the rapture—though it was not called that at the time—would occur immediately before the Second Coming, at the close of the period of persecution. This position is today called the "post-tribulational" view because it says the rapture will come after the tribulation.

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MY opinion:

People have been proclaiming that they are living through the "end times" for waaaaay too long. There's always some unhygienic street-corner evangelist crackpot sputtering about how the world is going to end and that all the heathens better get the Lord harassed into their unsaved souls.

It STILL hasn't happened. The sky isn't falling. The oceans aren't boiling. Pigs are most definitely NOT sprouting wings and taking to the skies. They've been barking about it for years and years and years and they'll STILL be barking for years to come.

It's a scare tactic, a convenient freak- the- everliving- crap- out- of- folks magic wand that can be waved about in dramatic fashion any time the religious collective feels the soul harvest is running dry.

Trust me... go about your life. Ok, I'm sure you will anyhow considering there's really no alternative option (besides suicide, and I've heard “God” frowns upon that), but just make sure to keep in mind: STAY CALM. DON'T PANIC. REMEMBER YOUR TOWEL.

2006-10-01 03:41:45 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

The rapture was a protestant invention from the mid 19th century, the idea was that no Christians would have to go through the tribulation, so if, as so many claim, we are currently in the end times, then the rapture has passed and all the people claiming to be Christians didn't make the cut.

2006-10-01 09:21:46 · answer #3 · answered by rich k 6 · 0 1

It might help you to do a serious study of Romans 8. Pay particular attention to Romans 8;1-2
As I understand it, the trib has to do with God's wrath because of
sin, especially the sin of rebellion against God.
Since Christians are free from the Law of Sin and Death it seems
to me that they should not be subject to the tribulation that is to come on the earth. I've heard a lot of argument against the pre trib
rapture but none of it has convinced me otherwise.
I Cr 13;8a
10-1-6

EDIT: I've read all the question and the answers directly above me. I would really like to read anything else someone has to say
from a scriptural standpoint. Thanks.

2006-10-01 03:47:47 · answer #4 · answered by ? 7 · 0 0

there is absolutely no scriptural support for, or even the word rapture in the Bible.
If you look closely at 2 Peter you will notice a series of scriptures that speak of the pattern with which God has set as regards the removal of 'ungodly men'. Throughout the record of the Bible he does so without removing people from the earth to execute his righteous judgment. It clearly says that this pattern is what is also is going to come upon the earth.
So, no rapture. Unless you can call the termination of those who will be destroyed a rapture!
9090

2006-10-01 03:41:07 · answer #5 · answered by Tim 47 7 · 0 1

It is not referred to as "Rapture" but the doctrine is there:

For the Lord himself shall descent from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

2006-10-01 09:11:14 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I think you are right

the pre-trib rapture is a cop-out for 'holier than thou' types

2006-10-01 03:40:25 · answer #7 · answered by owner4nothing 3 · 0 0

This is one of many doctrines Christians do not agree on, meaning their scriptures are seriously faulty: for a range of views, see:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AiBQKrWHgR0kfqv7jLtIQITsy6IX?qid=20060917234329AAPm2sa

2006-10-01 04:00:26 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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