why hasn't someone developed a logical hypothesis to disproove the beleif in God, christian bullshit?

Question

There is no solid proof to the beleif in God, nor the christian stuff...Logically, it can be disprooven. Step by Step, that a beleif in God is not sane because there is no solid evidence of it. So, why has not someone, used the documented rules of logic (such as LSAT logic), to proove that the beleif in the christian, muslim and jewish God (as described in the scriptures) is insane and ridiculous....

I think logical people KNOW, who are not religious...what are the reasons for it being ridiculous......so why has it not been "RESOLVED"---religion= ridiculous...ban all religious people to the realm of "delusional" ?

why? maybe its because they actually ARE DELUSIONAL and cannot be convinced EVER---because they will not be persuaded by logic...

we could come up with how religion was created by man because it served a purpose of unity in those days...bla bla bla...

and how that would be am ore relevant explanation than an actual GOD telling people to write in a book...

but

they would still.....not beleive in it...

so why, doesn't the rational scientific community come up with a basis, a logic theorem about religious people and their psychology (psychotic) that would proove that they would be willing to beleive in anything as long as it satisfied their comfort zone....

we could come up with a psychology study...on how beleif in God is not based on reason......I bet people would say...(because of this or that) and then when presented with an alternative that God does not exist....they cannot even process the possibility (most I have found....on questions in yahoo answers...do not even concider that possibility...they say "its impossible...God would tell us of it as it is so and so" ...)

so .....if these people cannot EVEN CONCIDER another possiblity....yet beleive in this blindly....then is there any real logical basis for their beleif?

I bet that you could proove, with a scientific study, that the beleif in God 80% of the time, is insane..

and then we could banish, once and for all...the religious from the "rational" realm of things...and dubb them as "irrational and delusional" and therefore not have to argue anymore because things would have been settled...

They already have...its just that convincing a crazy person will never be acheived...if you beleivce this is the case...then you are crazy in yourself (these are the agnostics and atheists which havce nothing to do with their time)...

COMMON people, want to banish the delusional brats once and for all? Lets formulate our "treastice of religious truth" and "the delusional side of the beleif in God" and FINISH THIS CRAP ONCE AND FOR ALL.

and then we could banish, once and for all...the religious from the "rational" realm of things...and dubb them as "irrational and delusional" and therefore not have to argue anymore because things would have been settled...

They already have...its just that convincing a crazy person will never be acheived...if you beleivce this is the case...then you are crazy in yourself (these are the agnostics and atheists which havce nothing to do with their time)...

COMMON people, want to banish the delusional brats once and for all? Lets formulate our "treastice of religious truth" and "the delusional side of the beleif in God" and FINISH THIS CRAP ONCE AND FOR ALL.

stullerl...YOU ARE RIGHT...YOU CANNOT DISPROOVE GOD...BUT you can disproove the beleif in God...because there is no evidence of his existance....only interpretation...no scientific method ...nothing...to proove that he exists...

So, if we did psychological studies...I bet, that the BELEIF IN GOD, could be very easily disprooved as insane MOST OF THE TIME..

:)

searchfortruth....

Yes...some of the many "great thinkers" proclaim to have beleived in God...but they also say that the CHRISTIAN GOD makes absolutely no sense, and on more than one occassion, they suggested that their beleif in God was in many respects tied with the expectations of the time.

Just because a very intelligent person in PHYSICS says that he beleives in God...prooves nothing. I know many a people, who will say this, and then I will talk to them and they will have serious reservations on beleiving the crap that is listed in the bible...

This is the type of people I suspect Newton, Einstein were. Furthermore, there are many other, very INTELLIGENT people who are self-proclaimed atheists...

such as stephen hawking, max boer, and Newton's contemporary (leibnitz).

So I don't think intelligence has any bearing on whether it is more JUSTIFIED to beleive---on the contrary...geniuses are prone to insanity---so it does not disproove my arguement that beleif in God

is insane.

Pagacita...god damm it....this is what happens when you try to compare A with B, and then arrive at C...

JUST BECAUSE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE SAY THEY BELEIVE IN GOD, DOES NOT MEAN:

(A) - That the beleif in God is any less insane
(B) - That just because they said they beleivce in God, does not mean they beleivce in the interpreation you think they beleive in....They could define God as follows:

The existance of a higher power that has brought forth the current stage of the Universe....

This could mean a variety of things people...the existance of a higher power---could mean LAWS...and processes which brought upon the current stage of the Universe....GOD= HIGHER POWER---

It does not mean GOD = EXISTANCE IN AFTERLIFE, a benevolent force by which takes care of you.

Do you see the difference?


There beleif in God CAN BE justified through logic. But MOST OF THE TIME, the beleif in God is not justified because the masses beleive in it only due to emotional comfort.

if you define God to be a physical evolutionary process...like the laws of thermodynamics which brought upon the existance of the world it is today...Then the beleive in God is very LOGICAL..

If you define the beleive in God, not only as a higher power, or state of laws, but as a concious being that resides somewhere in the Universe, that is benevolent and gives you an after life....but especially...the jesus was God, and all the crap in the bible...

Then this would make no sense, because the evidence is scarce, yet the percentage of people that beleive this is LARGE....

SO MAKE YOUR CONCLUSION ----evidence = scarce, but beleif= large...

Not a lot of logic, but much beleif...what does this mean? That the motivation to beleive is most likely more biased toward emotion than logic, and when you put emotion over logic, you are treading on the definition of insane..

THEREFORE THAT DEFINITION OF GOD (THE AVERAGE ONE), is INSANE......

jesus christ you people.

Answer 1

You are really trying to convince somebody of something, aren't you? You just need Jesus and your mind wouldn't be so bumfuzzled. Oh, by the by, learn how to spell, please. Use spellcheck and then people won't know how unlearned you are.

Answer 2

It is only logical to have a belief in God. Where did the universe originate? With matter and antimatter? If so, where did the aether originate? Eventually, you find yourself in a conundrum. Something had to be eternal. Also, matter does not simply create itself. Televisions and computers do not build themselves. Novels do not write themselves, and buildings do no not rise on their own. There had to be a Divine Creator. Simple as that. Yes, that is scientific. Belief that things just happened by chance is not, it's foolish fantasy.

Answer 3

I am a very logical scientific thinker. That's why I DO believe in God. Many many people have tried to disprove Christianity and concluded that it has to be true.
Read: Lee Strobel's the Case for Christ.
Also "Evidence that Requires a Verdict".

Answer 4

Because no one till now has made a concerted effort to do so.

"I think logical people KNOW, who are not religious what are the reasons for religion being ridiculous..." If you are a self-proclaimed atheist shouldn't you know why its ridiculous...

I would seriously entertain the notion that religion is fraudulent if only the people telling me this were not as incompetent and idiotic as the preachers and televangelists that press religion forcefully on others.

Answer 5

I can see we need to just let you rant and rave and get it all out. Okay. First floor is the anger management area. And a logical person would tell you if there is no logic behind arguing with a Christian, then keep your mouth shut.
It is better to be quite and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and leave no doubt.

Answer 6

Some of the most brilliant scientists in the history of the world believed in God: Newton, Pascal, Pasteur, Galileo, Faraday, Kepler, and so on. It is the scientists who cannot find HARMONY between science and religion that has the problem of connecting the dots.

The following is from Thomas Aquinas from the Great Books of the Western World. It can be found in the reference section of the library.

ARTICLE 2. Whether It Can Be Demonstrated That God Exists?

I Answer that, Demonstration can be made in two ways. One is through the cause, and... The other is through the effect... When an effect is better known to us than its cause, from the effect we proceed to the knowledge of the cause. And from every effect the existence of its proper cause can be demonstrated, so long as its effects are better known to us, because since every effect depends upon its cause, if the effect exists, the cause must pre-exist. Hence the existence of God, in so far as it is not self-evident to us, can be demonstrated from those of His effects which are known to us.

ARTICLE 3. Whether God Exists?

I answer that, The existence of God can be proved in five ways.
The first and more manifest way is the argument from motion.... [Newton’s second law of motion] whatever is moved must be moved by another. If that by which it is moved be itself moved, then this also must be moved by another, and that by another again. But this cannot go on to infinity, because then there would be no first mover, and, consequently, no other mover, seeing that subsequent movers move only because as they are moved by the first mover... Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover which is moved by no other. And this everyone understands to be God.

The second way is from the notion of efficient cause.... There is no case known (nor indeed, is it possible) in which a thing is found to be the efficient cause of itself, because in that case it would be prior to itself, which is impossible.... Now to take away the cause is to take away the effect.... Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.

The third way is taken from possibility and necessity... [or] to be or not to be. ...If everything is possible not to be, then at one time there could have been nothing in existence. Now if this were true, even now there would be nothing in existence, because that which does not exist only begins to exist by something already existing. [FACT: Matter can not be destroyed nor created; at most it changes form i.e. solid, liquid, gas. Physical Law: the first law of Thermodynamics.] Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have been impossible for anything to have begun to exist; and thus even now nothing would be in existence -- which is clearly false. Therefore, not all beings are merely possible, but there must exist something the existence of which is necessary.... Therefore we must admit the existence of some being having of itself its own necessity, and not receiving it from another, but rather causing in others their necessity. This all men speak of as God.

The fourth way is taken from the gradation to be found in things. Among beings there are some more and some less good, true, noble, and the like. But “more” and “less” are predicated of different things [like a match in comparison to the sun]... Therefore there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being [a Supreme Being], goodness, and every other perfection. And this we call God.

The fifth way is taken from the governance of things. We see that things which lack knowledge, such as natural bodies, act for an end... Hence it is plain that they achieve their end not by chance, but by design. Now whatever lacks knowledge cannot move towards an end, unless it be directed by some being endowed with knowledge and intelligence, as the arrow is directed by the archer. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are ordered to their end; and this being we call God.

Answer 7

" I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life; no man can come to the Father except through me". -- Jesus Christ

" Neither is there salvation in any other; for there is no other name under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved". (Acts 4:12)

"... you shall die in your sins: for if you believe not that I am he (Mesiah, Son of God) you shall die in your sins". - Jesus (Jn. 8:24)

"Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-Christ, that denies the Father and the Son. He that denies the Son, the same has not the Father." (I John 2:22)

" God is patient and longsuffering, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance". - From the bible

Answer 8

Work on spelling, first. The logic can come later.

LSAT logic? You mean informal logic (logical fallacies, etc).

Yes there are many arguments. None are successful.

Answer 9

God is God, and believing in Him is wisdom. If Logic is your god you're in big trouble. Your mind is blinding you to what is very simple. But if you want to be a fool, that is your right.

Answer 10

I'd point you to Aquinas' natural proofs of God, but I don't think many on this board are schooled enough in either philosphy or theology to understand or follow it.