And, if God is the same as a human, as dictated by the Trinitarian doctrine, how did God breathe, eat, drink of do anything else if there was nothing for him to access?
2006-09-30 09:59:56 · 21 answers · asked by Left the building 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Trinitarian doctrine claims that God is HUMAN, spirit and something else they can't quite explain.
But, Trinitarians claim God is human and in the flesh.
ooopppsss... There's one of those contradictions again.
2006-09-30 10:05:31 · update #1
Everyone please read Synickel's answer...
:-)
And, for those claiming God is not human, you still didn't answer the question asking for a description of this "nothingness" that supposedly existed.
2006-09-30 10:07:59 · update #2
Trinitarians specifically state that Jesus was with God and IS God and that's how they get around the idea of polytheism.
If Jesus was not with God and is God, then the Trinity is nonsense.
Hmm....
2006-09-30 10:10:19 · update #3
I guess they aren't familiar with trinitarian doctrine and that whole Jesus is God thing. Jesus was a man people. If Jesus is God, and Jesus is a man, then all of the things necessary to sustain life for a man would be necessary for God. Hello.
2006-09-30 10:04:19 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 3⤋
Before the One came to self-consciousness, it slept with all other infinities in a homogenized, polarity-less, limitles 'collection' that I call the EverSleeping All. This existed 'before' creation, 'alongside' creation, and will exist forever, not limited by time.
But then the One did awaken, come to self-consciousness, and involuntarily shout: "I am!". The vibrations of that 'shout' created an area of limitations within the EverSleeping All (which we call 'existence'), and the ultimate polarities, the 8 elements, seperated from each other (Earth, Air, Crystal, and Lightning being the elements of the Maleness of the One (often called YHVH),, and Spirit, Water, Fire, and Mystery being the elements of the Femaleness of the One (sometimes called Shekinah).
To sum up, before the creation not even nothing was. The was no need for any kind of respiration, consumption, excretion, etc.
Meseems you are purposefully misunderstanding that the person of the Body of YHVH chose to incarnate as a human in a human body with human limitations and needs. It did not have those limits or needs before incarnating, and it does not have them now, after reincarnating. Why should it? What would the purpose be?
2006-09-30 10:21:29 · answer #2 · answered by raxivar 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God The Father is not the same as a human. Jesus said that God The Father is a Spirit. God The Father is righteous, perfect, pure, holy, etc. God doesn't need to eat, drink, and breathe because He is a Spirit that does not have a physcial body.
God The Father and mankind is in two separate worlds. God looks at everything differently than mankind does. God has infinite knowledge while mankind has finite knowledge. God looks at a day from night to day, where man looks at it as day to night. Mankind cannot comprehend the spiritual world that God is in. Our minds were created like that once(before Adam fell), but it is because of rebellion and sin that has caused us to be spiritually and physcially cut off from God The Father. It was Jesus, the Son of God, who brought us back to God the Father, so that we be found favorable and righteous in God's eyes.
If you notice in the Bible God says, "Let US make man in OUR image." US? OUR? Some people believe that man's image is a reflection of God the Father, God the Son(Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit put together, even though they are three separate.
He created everything therefore His access to anything is unlimited and He has no space. Which means He can be everywhere at once. Mankind is not equal with God, because we are the creation not the Creator.
2006-09-30 10:13:58 · answer #3 · answered by sanctusreal77 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Noooooooooo
Chrstians believe God the Son took an an additional human nature at bethlehem to become the mediator between God and man and to reconsile man to God
Jesus in John 17 talked about love He had with the Father before the world was made. God existed in a community of Love as Father Son and Spirit before the world was made
God was infinite in need of nothing before He created anything out of His overflowign abundance
2006-09-30 10:13:08 · answer #4 · answered by whirlingmerc 6 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God was before His creation. God Is. In proverbs, God possessed Wisdom (Word / Logos / Son of God) before all things. God is also the Holy Spirit who is before all His Creation. Jesus is the Reason & for Him all things are created. He is the purpose, the Logos.
God is Father, Word & Holy Spirit. In that image God made us, male & female we were made. So we are made in the image of God the Father, Word & Holy Spirit. We are a soul, flesh, & spirit. We can have mental / emotional wounds, physical wounds & spiritual / emotional wounds.
God isn't the same as a human. Jesus, the Word, came to earth and put on humanity for the first time. Felt what we feel. Overcame the devils temptations & was sinless. Before Jesus put on humanity, He had human form. Visions of Him as the Ancient of Days in Old Testament Prophet (Daniel?) is similar to the vision of Jesus in Revelation to John. The vision is the Word of God, not a vision of the resurrected body of the LORD Jesus Christ, the High Priest & King. Jesus resurrected body is at the right hand of God.
Hebrews 11:1-3 Now faith (know in knower) is the substance (title deed) of things hoped (thought of to ask) for, the evidence of things not seen.... Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the Word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things that appear.
By faith, God hoped (thought), and by Faith & His Spoken Word things that were invisible became visible.
As far as your last question goes, God is creative, so created things in the before creation realm. An example is how we breath, eat, drink or do anything. It happened in the heavens first.
God the trinity is not human, meaning not flesh & blood. Jesus put on humanity, flesh & blood, born of the Virgin Mary. When Jesus rose from the dead, He rose up a new tabernacle. Meaning He wasn't flesh & blood in His resurrected body. Flesh & blood doesn't go to heaven. Our inner person goes to heaven. At the first resurrection (Those redeemed by the blood of the Lamb), we will have a physical metomorpho & put on a new tabernacle similar to Jesus Christ resurrrected body.
2006-09-30 10:26:24 · answer #5 · answered by t a m i l 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The book of Genesis described how God re-created the earth the second time. The first time he created it, it was perfect with a perfect civilization until Lucifer, the pseudo leaders then of the first earth revels against Him (the sovereign God). And God destroyed the first civilization through water (Gen 1:1-2)
God is not human. If you are referring to Jesus Christ, He is both God and man, God that became human, not human that became God.
The scripture says He exist, How, where, and when we do not know. That is his secret.
2006-09-30 10:14:38 · answer #6 · answered by NIGHT_WATCH 4 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think you misunderstand. God is not and never was "the same as a human." Jesus was the presence of God in the Son. Not the same at all. God came before creation if you mean the creation of life. The question begs the question as to the extent of your studies, does it not?
2006-09-30 10:06:00 · answer #7 · answered by reformed 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
You are forgetting to look further into the text. If you look 13 verses down you will read this...
"14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[d] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." John 1:14
Jesus was spirit, and became flesh, or was manifested in the flesh, this means that before this he was not human.
Before creation, the Trinity was there fellowshipping wth itself.
2006-09-30 10:19:30 · answer #8 · answered by G W 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
God came before creation. His ability to come in human form does not mean He is human.
2006-09-30 10:03:28 · answer #9 · answered by Contemplative Chanteuse IDK TIRH 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
God is a spirit He is not a human---and if we knew what came before creation then we would be God but we're not so we don't know
2006-09-30 10:02:50 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋