Kata was made years ago but i wouldn't use an abacus when i have a calculator whats the difference?

Question

i asked this question to provoke thought and discusion thanks not because i believe no good can come from practicing kata thanks to everybody that answered the question

Answer 1

its proved that the abacus is quicker

Answer 2

The abacus use does not train you to use a calculator, it does not teach:-

amongst, mental control - unperturbed by what is happening around you, how to focus energy,technique and focus, smoothnes of movement and co-ordination, rythm

Kata gives you a basis to transform into reality.

Use of an abacus is an alternative to the calculator, kata is a foundation for all techniques.

Master Funakoshi taught that kata was karate - clearly an abacus is not a calculator.

You can read about Master Funakoshi and kata at the link below.

There are no short cuts to perfection.

Answer 3

Here is your flaw in this logic.
abacus=calculator
kata= ???
What is your modern equivalent to kata? You are lacking this in your formula. Replacing kata with nothing certainly is not good.
As a traditionalist I often hear that the old ways are outdated.
I understand that technology has greatly changed in the past thousand years. But unarmed combat really hasn't. The human body is the same. Until the human body evolves into another shape, the old ways still work. Sure, the training methods may have been refined such as luxuries like air conditioning/heat , protective equipment, lights, heavy bags, kicking shields, stop watches, etc... but a punch is still a punch, form is still form, a choke is still a choke. I don't see the grounds for removing kata. I think this is another case of Americans wanting things quicker and easier. Laziness and martial arts do not mix.

Answer 4

If you consider that unarmed combat is thousands and thousands of years old, and that codified martial arts and their associated kata are only a few decades to a few hundred years old, then you might see that kata are actually a relatively new invention used to pass down the teaching of techniques that were proven over a very long history to be the most effective.

The acient way was trial and error, survival or death, and the new way is kata.

Maybe in the future we will be able to download the techniques directly into our brains and never have to practice again, but until that time we have kata to help us practice the proven effective techniques over and over until our bodies can use them without our brains having to think about it.

Answer 5

The whole point of kata was to make memorizing the techniques easier. If they are learnied in a particular order, it makes them easier to remember, and to pass the information on. It also makes it easier for instructors to keep track of what they ahve taught to who. If they know that you ahve learned a particular kata then they know what techniques you know. Kata ALSO serves as an excellent means for developing stamina without having to do extra exercise to accomplish that, thus the necessary time for learning the techniques is also shortened and they are accessable more readily and with a greater variety in less time.

Answer 6

Oh the audacity of youth! When I was young I thought that I could find a way that was easier, quicker, more efficient but after years of skiving and back peddling I find that hard work is the only way to get what you want. Maybe this is 'not' what you want.

'Everybody wants to go to heaven but no one wants to die'

Do the kata's have faith that they will pay off in the end

Answer 7

what's your point here?

Katas and forms were created for the repetitve motion, and committing the techniques to memory as well as conditioning the muscles for muscle memory to and learn the techniques so they're second nature instead of having to think about it.

I can think of no better way to learn the techniques and proper positioning of your hands and legs for the execution of the techniques., otherwise it'd take much longer to learn the discipline.

unfortunately, this isn't The Matrix, it's reality, there's no fast way to learn Martial Arts. youthful vigor as compared to experience, gotta have everything now, not later; chop chop.

as you train more there pal; you'll see more of the usefulness of Katas or Forms, but it's gonna take time and practice.

Answer 8

you have completely missed the point . Kata was created to preserve the core principles of the art . karate would be nothing without Kata . where would you acquire the knowledge to perform moves correctly .all the martial arts have Kata, kungfu has forms [sets] of moves . Shaolin monks have forms which they practise thousands of reps therefore drilling these moves into muscle memory to be used ,when needed without conscious thought

Answer 9

thee guys talk shite use the calculater