Controversial Social Issue?

Question

People here have compared me to Stalin, Satan, and Hitler, even Pol Pot. Just because of my views and ideas. I’ve even been called a communist on this site. The reason is I believe that we should every so often cull the masses, to ensure that the fit and strong survive. What we are doing now is going against nature. Nature wouldn’t keep the sick or elderly (unless there friends and family of the higher ups, but that’s a different matter) alive. Out in the wild those would be the first to go. We all are just animals anyway. We’re just a higher form that’s it. Is it wrong that I feel that everyone should be put to a use, or should server some purpose? Savants and other mental challenged, they could be used to make reproduces of the great out work of the past. Or they could be used for labor. I feel the same way for prisoners, instead of feeding them and clothing them put them to work, labor that is free. We should all work for the betterment of society.

Religions should be outlawed, Media should be censored and books should be banned. They cause too much thinking, too much questioning. Is it wrong that I think and feel this way deep, deep, deep down in my “soul”?

What do you think of my ideas, and how should I go about setting these things in motion?

Answer 1

Your argument is logical, from an extremely limited viewpoint. The primary problem with eugenics as a social policy is that it completely ignores the primary adaptive mechanism by which homo sapiens became the dominant species on this planet: socialization.

If mankind were a wolfpack, the sick and elderly would, indeed, be a drain on society. They would consume more resources than they contribute. Fortunately for humans, our advanced social systems allow us to acquire and distribute significantly more resources than we need for survival, mitigating this drain and allowing time for the furtherance of technology and education. An elderly wolf cannot teach a young pup how to be a better hunter, but an elderly man can. A sick wolf cannot share her knowledge and experience of illness with the pack, but a sick woman can teach us a great deal.

Mankind, by virtue of technology and socialization, is not subject to evolutionary pressures in the same ways as other species. We have learned to evolve externally, to adapt our environments to ourselves, rather than waiting for our bodies to adapt to our environment. When winter sets in, other animals hibernate, build up fat stores, or migrate to warmer climates. We just put on sweaters and turn up the radiator. We evolve socially to a much greater degree than we evolve as organisms. This "proactive evolution" allows us to adapt to changing environments much more quickly than other species.

These advancements do not take place in a vacuum. They require communication and social support to come to fruition. By supporting other humans who, for whatever reason, have fallen behind, we keep this exchange of ideas alive. Since the resource drain is small compared to our resource pool and the potential benefit of preserving knowledge is enormous, the benefits of protecting the less able greatly outweigh the risks.

Books, religion, news media, and other forms of communication are absolute necessities for the furtherance of man as a species. The ideas and symbols that they convey are the primary means by which man develops new ideas and technologies. They do, indeed, make us think, and that's a good thing. They are the synapses in the brain of mankind, the ways in which man, as a species, solves problems. Eliminating these tools for communication would be social suicide, as demonstrated by the failed regimes of the dictators mentioned above.

In sum, mankind cannot afford to lose its sick, its elderly, its criminals, its madmen, or its handicapped. All of these, merely by existing, contribute more to society, reasoning, and human potential than we can possibly estimate. Neither can we afford to lose our beliefs or ideas, nor our means to exchange our collected and advancing knowledge. Everyone has something to teach, even if they are only useful as bad example.

Everyone also has something to learn. Start today, and never stop.

Answer 2

You are completely wrong, nature/evolution says nothing like that. The elderly are wise to start with - that is why we evolved to live so long. Secondly, for evolution to occur, genetic diversity is essential. Todays weak are tomorrows strong - either because the environment changes, or because many genetic mutations are required on top of each other before they become useful. The first mutation may be a detriment, eg. our ancestors who mutated to have weak jaws but because of that were then able (many many generations later) to evolve bigger brains.

More importantly it's just plain immoral.

Answer 3

I agree that we need to thin out the herd. Why oh why can't we declare a hunting season on humans? As for your suggestions to censorship, I do not agree. We are all just animals, but the thinking that books and such causes is what sets us apart from those that walk on all fours.

Answer 4

What labels people place on you cannot make the difference. You are you, you are right, you are good.
But perhaps you should rethink about fearing of too much thinking, too much belief, too much intellect...and especially about your will to suppress all sorts of liberties.
How can we work for a better society if men are deprived of their liberties?

Answer 5

If you "cull the masses" you aren't ensuring that the fit and strong survive... you are just ensuring that everyone has an equal chance...

Your logic is screwed up...

You preach free speech for everyone except those of religion... hypocritical if you ask me

Answer 6

When I read something of this sort, I am glad the author is just some 17 year old urinating in jars around the basement of his Mom's house because he won't leave his room.

Answer 7

Maybe so---but who would be the one to make this decision? Another mortal, flawed human being?

No, let Mother Nature run Her course.

Answer 8

You should read up on a concept called "social darwinism." I think it would really fit your lines of thought here.

Answer 9

I think you are bullshitting. I don't think that you believe these things, you just want to shock and impress. You are totally not impressive. Brave internet words.

Answer 10

I never thought I would say this. But I totally agree with spooky on this one.