Where in the bible?
Ezekial 37:19-20 speaks of two books, the stick of Joseph written by the hand of Ephraim and the stick of Judah. The stick of Judah is the Bible, written by the Jews who are of the tribe of Judah. The Stick of Ephraim is the Book of Mormon, written by the tribe of Ephraim as outlined by the geneaology contained therein.
Why another testament?
2 Corinthians 13:1 "In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."
Why no prophecy of Joseph Smith? Well, apart from prophecies about Jesus Christ and John the Baptist, there are very few prophecies about other prophets. The scriptures are supposed to, afterall, testify of Christ, not man.
Do we preach all others are wrong? Yes and No. We preach the gospel and rarely ever talk about any other churches. Why? We focus on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. There is so much to learn, why should we waste time trying to figure out how to bash other religions? The truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is what is important. That said, we do believe that there was an apostasy, or falling away from the truth. This is evident by the hundreds, if not thousands, of christian churches preaching different things and without the authority to do so. Christianity has existed from Adam to present. However, after the death of the Christ and his apostles, we believe that there was no one on earth who possessed the priesthood authority until Joseph Smith was called of God. 2 Thessalonians 2:3 Speaks of a falling away from truth. Amos 8:11 speaks of a famine of hearing the words of the Lord. We believe that this famine and falling away was the apostasy from God's true church.
We also believe that these are the latter-days and that Satan is working strongly.
I hope that this helps. Let me know if you would like further clarification.
2006-09-30 04:45:49
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answered by whapingmon 4
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Samsom, you clearly have no idea how the Bible was constructed. First of all, it is a collection of books written by and selected by men, not delivered on a mountaintop by God. Nothing in the Bible says the revelation ceased with St. John's apocalypse. When the Apocalypse (Revelation) pronounces a curse on anyone who adds to or takes away from the book, it referred only to the Book of Revelations. The Bible would not be assembled for centuries later. The Old Testament, the "Bible" of Jesus' day, mentions neither him, nor Paul, nor Matthew, nor Mark, nor Luke, nor John, nor any disciple by name. Does that invalidate them?
Also you do not understand Mormonism. They do not claim there was no Christianity before 1820. They claim the ecumenical councils and Catholic church stamped out the true faith, and indeed many Mormon beliefs match to doctrines the councils declared heresies in the first several centuries of the church. I would note that even Catholic histories point out the Romanist bishops won a number of council votes after having the ship carrying the Greek bishops attacked and burned at sea. This was hardly the act of a spirit-filled holy conclave. Bishop Arius, who Catholic histories dub a heretic, was prevented from giving his testimony and defending his doctrine before the council by being assassinated. These men were politicians playing for money, authority and power, and they are the ones that decided which books were canonical and which doctrines orthodox. These things are almost never mentioned in church, leaving the ignorant with the impression that Jesus read the King James Bible. Your view of scripture as though it is equivalent to the clay tablets of Moses is simply not factual.
2006-09-29 23:29:44
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answered by Anonymous
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And Jews are wondering where does it say in their holy writings that there needs to be a New Testament. Not even Jesus, the most important figure in the history of mankind, was named in the Old Testament.
You have to wonder, though... would God send us any prophets in the last days? Would Christ return the second time without God sending prophets to guide us in the right direction? You were correct on one thing: the Bible does state that God will do nothing without informing his servants the prophets (Amos 3:7).
2006-09-30 04:32:07
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answered by Anonymous
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Why I am bothering to reply is beyond me but here goes. There is nothing original about your argument. Ever since Joseph Smith began speaking about The Book of Mormon a majority of Christians snorted 'that is bogus'and to this day the only bond between Mormons and Christians is they both follow the Books of the Gospel and accept Jesus Christ as their Savior.
Now here is the part that you are really gonna hate. NOTHING in the REAL BIBLE sets things up for Jesus Christ and his followers. There are repeated references to 'the messiah' but nothing Names Jesus - - - therefore
that said (not said) --- ----
Peace.....
2006-09-29 23:22:35
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answered by JVHawai'i 7
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According to the two Mormon elders I talked to, They quoted Isa. 30:8 & 10
Later when I went home, I read vs 9.
vs 9 For it is a rebellious people, untruthful sons, sons who have been unwilling to hear the law of Jehovah;
vs 10:Speak to us smooth things; envision deceptive things. 11 Turn aside from the way; deviate from the path. Cause the Holy One of Israel to cease just on account of us.’”
12 Therefore this is what the Holy One of Israel has said: “In view of YOUR rejecting of this word, and [since] YOU men trust in defrauding and in what is devious and YOU support yourselves on it, 13 therefore for YOU this error will become like a broken section about to fall down, a swelling out in a highly raised wall, the breakdown of which may come suddenly, in an instant. 14 And one will certainly break it as in the breaking of a large jar of the potters, crushed to pieces without one’s sparing [it], so that there cannot be found among its crushed pieces a fragment of earthenware with which to rake the fire from the fireplace or to skim water from a marshy place.”
I personnaly don't believe Isaiah was fortelling a future book to enhance the Bible,
But if they want to insist, then I personnally don't want to read a book that is from a rebellious people, untruthful sons, sons who have been unwilling to hear the law of Jehovah;
2006-10-02 06:14:59
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answered by TeeM 7
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I am with you on this. Although the Mormon church was founded in 1830 not 1820, they contend that no valid expression of the church was available between the apostles and that time. That is not what Jesus prophecied. He said that the gates of Hell would not prevail against His church.
If they reckon that they are the only true church on the face of the earth, we have a problem.
2006-10-01 01:59:08
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answered by Buzz s 6
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At the very top levels, in the most strictest sense of the understanding, the Mormons are NOT Christians- as they recieved this second "holy" book from an "Angel" named "moroni".
They believe this book is equal too, or greater than the bible.
The Book of Mormon says that great cities exist, and great wars had taken place- and theres no cities where the book says they were, and the great wars theres no archeologcal evidence to support it.
Also, supposedly the Book of Mormon was written in EGYPTIAN. Think on this for a second, it was written in EGYPTIAN.
Why would G-d write a book in the language of a people he hated and wiped out there armys in?
So, we have no archeological proof of the book of mormon, we have a book that only one person saw, and the language was written in a peoples written language that G-d pretty much disliked.
Not to include the 53 major conflicts I found within the first 3 chapters of the first book in "Mormon" vs what the bible taught.
Also, please consider the teachings of the movie and the book "The G-d Makers"- on its initial showing, 400 attorneys from the Mormon church showed up, threatening lawsuits,,,,and they never filed a single lawsuit, for they knew they would lose big time in a court case.
2006-09-29 23:15:49
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answer #7
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answered by Anonymous
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An Angel appeared to Joseph Smith, the Angel Moroni. It is up to you whether you believe it or not. note: i am not endorsing or dismissing the Mormon faith, this is purely for informational purposes.
2006-09-29 23:16:39
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answered by great gig in the sky 7
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Well, the first major problem with the Book of Mormon is that Joseph Smith said he got it from an angel. It's a different gospel, and it's from an angel. It's a HUGE problem in light of Galatians 1:8:
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
The Book of Mormon is bad from the beginning, according to the Bible. Case closed.
2006-09-29 23:18:46
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answered by Pastor Chad from JesusFreak.com 6
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You're right. Joe Smith was not a prophet! We don't need another testement.
2006-09-29 23:17:43
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answered by edward_lmb 4
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