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You wanna save my soul? Tell me what you know and how you know it. I want arguments on both sides, about Heaven, Hell does it exist, faslities, etc.

2006-09-29 20:20:54 · 19 answers · asked by jasontogs 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

19 answers

neither hell nor heaven exist. full stop.

2006-09-29 20:34:05 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

This is only a short statement, although it seems long.

The Bible teaches that the soul dies (Ezekiel 18:4, 20) The choices given have always been life or death, not permanent torture. i.e. the choice given to the Israelites (Jews) when they were given the commandments (only 10 of which were written on the stone tablets) also John 3:16 offers everlasting life as the blessing for choosing to follow. Revelation chapter 20 shows that the greek word that is translated as "hell" in a few of the existing translations today, is not the lake of fire, but is actually thrown into the lake of fire.

There are many more scriptures which show that God does NOT torment people forever in a fiery hell. The punishment can be eternal (many examples could here be listed, such as the punishment of Sodom and Gomorrah was permanent, but they are not still burning today, or the city of Babylon would never be rebuilt.) Revelation 20 speaks of the 2nd death, so there are 2 types of deaths: the one we inherit from Adam, because of his sin, and there are many scriptures that could be listed here that would show that this is the one that a resurrection is possible, but then the one in Revelation speaks of death and hell being thrown into the lake of fire, which is the 2nd death - so there is symbolic language used there.

If one is really interested, then time is involved in sharing all of the scriptural proof that hell is not a place where one is burning in fire forever as punishment for sins. The Bible shows that the punishment for sin is death. The Genesis account itself, Romans 5:12, Romans 6:23, and others can all be used to prove this.

The parable (a story that is told with a lesson to be learned) of the rich man and Lazarus is just that, a parable and should not be taken literally, although many people do take it literally, but the context of those passages can be used to show that it is symbolic.

The Bible is really simplistic in its teaching. It is the teaching of some religions that make it complicated. I find it quite understandable why some people take it as a bunch of "mumbo jumbo" when they hear what some religions claim the Bible says.

2006-09-30 03:36:59 · answer #2 · answered by grammy_of_twins_plus two 3 · 0 0

Genesis 1:1
[ The Beginning ] In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
Genesis 1:1
[ Heaven and Earth ] First this: God created the Heavens and Earth—all you see, all you don't see. Earth was a soup of nothingness, a bottomless emptiness, an inky blackness. God's Spirit brooded like a bird above the watery abyss.

Genesis 1:6
God spoke: "Sky! In the middle of the waters; separate water from water!" God made sky. He separated the water under sky from the water above sky. And there it was: he named sky the Heavens; It was evening, it was morning— Day Two.

Email me,, I will finish, this could take a while, I got the whole book to give to you,

Revelation 21
Everything New
1I saw Heaven and earth new-created. Gone the first Heaven, gone the first earth, gone the sea. 2I saw Holy Jerusalem, new-created, descending resplendent out of Heaven, as ready for God as a bride for her husband. 3-5I heard a voice thunder from the Throne: "Look! Look! God has moved into the neighborhood, making his home with men and women! They're his people, he's their God. He'll wipe every tear from their eyes. Death is gone for good—tears gone, crying gone, pain gone—all the first order of things gone." The Enthroned continued, "Look! I'm making everything new. Write it all down—each word dependable and accurate."
6-8Then he said, "It's happened. I'm A to Z. I'm the Beginning, I'm the Conclusion. From Water-of-Life Well I give freely to the thirsty. Conquerors inherit all this. I'll be God to them, they'll be sons and daughters to me. But for the rest—the feckless and faithless, degenerates and murderers, sex peddlers and sorcerers, idolaters and all liars—for them it's Lake Fire and Brimstone. Second death!"
21-27The main street of the City was pure gold, translucent as glass. But there was no sign of a Temple, for the Lord God—the Sovereign-Strong—and the Lamb are the Temple. The City doesn't need sun or moon for light. God's Glory is its light, the Lamb its lamp! The nations will walk in its light and earth's kings bring in their splendor. Its gates will never be shut by day, and there won't be any night. They'll bring the glory and honor of the nations into the City. Nothing dirty or defiled will get into the City, and no one who defiles or deceives. Only those whose names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life will get in.

2006-09-30 03:37:56 · answer #3 · answered by Faith Walker 4 · 0 1

Imagine there's no Heaven, it's easy if you try, no Hell below us, above us only sky. Imagine all the people sharing the world! You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one...perhaps some day you'll join us.

Oh yea....some guy Lennon wrote that.

2006-09-30 03:26:11 · answer #4 · answered by eantaelor 4 · 0 0

Look around you, look at the beauty of the world, not the bad part. The bad part was of or own making - who made the good part? If you have read the Bible you can see the events that were told would come are. How could someone for tell the future and be so right on track unless he knew what was going to happen. They say people wrote the Bible, of coarse they did.But who inspired them to write it all the same way? Somebody bigger than you and I.

2006-09-30 03:39:03 · answer #5 · answered by silverman 3 · 0 1

I CANNOT SAVE YOUR SOUL , YOU ARE NOT AN ANIMAL ,
YOU SIN , WHAT IS SIN , LYING , STEALING , MURDER , AMONG OTHER THINGS , YOU ARE BORN INTO SIN , EVERYTHING AROUND YOU IS DYING BECAUSE OF SIN , INCLUDING YOU ,
THE CURSE COMES FROM YOUR EARTHLY FATHER ,

JESUS DOES NOT HAVE A EARTHLY FATHER , HIS FATHER IS GOD , HE NEVER SINNED , HE BLOOD IS DIVINE , .
THE REASON IAM TALKING ABOUT SIN IS THAT IT IS THE REASON YOU WILL GO TO HELL UNLESS YOU ARE BORN OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD , BORN AGAIN , WHEN YOU WERE BORN INTO THIS WORLD , THAT IS A WATER BIRTH , TO BE BORN AGAIN IS A SPIRTUAL BIRTH , THE BIBLE SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE BORN OF WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT .
WHEN I WAS BORN OF THE SPIRIT I WAS DRAWN BY GOD ,
JESUS SAID NO ONE COMES TO ME UNLESS MY FATHER DRAWS YOU , JUST BELIEVING AND PRAYING WILL NOT GET YOU INTO HEAVEN , IF YOU CAN , READ JOHN 6: 44 .
BEFORE GOD SAVED ME HE CONVECTED ME OF MY SIN ,
NOT YOURS OR THIERS , BUT MY SIN , I KNEW I WAS GUILTY BEFORE GOD , AND I KNEW I NEEDED CHRIST TO TAKE AWAY THAT GUILT AS ONLY HE CAN DO , WHEN I SAY THAT I WAS SAVED WHAT DOES THAT MEAN , BEING SAVED MEANS TO BE SAVED FROM THE PENALTY OF SIN , BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE SIN MUST BE PUNISHED AND THAT IS WHERE THE CROSS COMES IN ,
JESUS PAID THE PRICE OF OUR SIN ON THE CROSS AND THE FACT THAT HE NEVER SINNED EVER , AND THEN ROSE FROM THE DEAD ON THE THIRD DAY .
SO WHAT DOES ALL THAT I HAVE SAID MEAN , WELL , GOD DOES NOT WANT YOU TO GO TO HELL , HE MADE A WAY FOR YOU TO ESCAPE HELL THROUGH JESUS CHRIST ALONE , THAT NOT OF YOURSELF , BUT IT IS A FREE GIFT ,
BUT ONLY IF YOU RECIEVE THIS GIFT. THE BIBLE HAS A LOT TO SAY ABOUT HELL , JESUS TALKED A HELL OF A LOT ABOUT HELL , LOL , NO JOKE THOUGH , YOU KNOW YOURSELF ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG , GOOD AND BAD
, UP AND DOWN , LEFT AND RIGHT , BLACK AND WHITE ,
SALT AND PEPPER , CHEESE AND PEPPERS , OOPS , LOL,
FORGET THAT PART , HEHE, THE BIBLE SAYS YOU ARE LOVED WITH AN EVERLASTING LOVE , AND UNDERNEATH ARE THE EVERLASTING ARMS , REMEMBER IF YOU MAKE IT
TO HEAVEN IT WILL NOT BE BASED ON YOUR WORKS , GOOD OR BAD , YOU MUST HAVE A FOREIGN RIGHTEOUSNESS , JESUS TOOK YOUR PLACE ON DEATH ROW , WILLINGLY , DESPITE YOURSELF

2006-09-30 04:13:12 · answer #6 · answered by heyboo134@yahoo.com 2 · 0 0

Hell is the Core of the earth as stated in Ephesians 4:9.

The bible has been proven to be a accurate historical document.

Now it is your choice to research that with out going to the Atheists for help.

That is a true form of culture shock.

2006-09-30 03:26:26 · answer #7 · answered by Investigation Specialist 4 · 0 1

There is nothing like hell or heaven. It is only our imagination. Forget about hell or heaven enjoy your life

2006-09-30 03:34:16 · answer #8 · answered by khayum p 6 · 0 0

I have no arguments whatsoever, but then again I am not interested in convincing anyone. I don't believe in hell or heaven or god, but if you will, that's your thing. I won't interfere.

2006-09-30 03:23:40 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I dont believe in heaven or hell i dont think both exists either way they both dont give a distict direction to where they are.

Also how come god doesnt kill the devil if he hates him so much

2006-09-30 03:38:56 · answer #10 · answered by Iwishmyhairwasemo 2 · 1 0

If YOU "wanna save your soul", you should seek the truth, and not sit on your butt waiting for people to convince you. That's the worse way to be guided, because you will always have expectations...

You should clear your mind, erase all embedded thoughts. Seek, and you will find...

2006-09-30 03:26:35 · answer #11 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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