Good question, and I mostly agree with you. I used to be a christian I would even speak to god like a lunatic. It is interesting to question someone who doesn't have practiced answers. Despite their inability to argue the existence of god they will stick to the idea that he does exist. Then they will find a reason to believe that he exists. On some matters people don't care about thought or truth they just want to believe some things.
2006-09-29 09:11:40
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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to answer your first question- of course, because people 'are' gived evidence that God exists.. along with evidence that he doesn't.. and they still have -faith- one way or another.
Maybe once you are saved, you have made such a strong commitment, that it is hard to ever abandon it- like how can you just abandon something that has meant so much to you, that was your life.
Or maybe you know it is the truth because you've never felt anything like it before. Nothing is 100 % certain so you can't just say 'there is evidence that God doesn't exist, so you shouldn't believe in him' because yeah.. there is evidence either way and it doesn't make it 100 % true.
and there are (former?) Chirstians that have thought about this. I think that you can grow away from God.. but I am not sure yet if you can truely be saved and then completely and honestly say that you don't believe in God... Maybe you can say that you don't believe in the same teachings.. but if you pray and feel someone is listening.. well.. you'd probably feel that you still had a connection with someone later on.
Mavis knows
2006-09-29 09:13:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Your remark is terribly untrue. 40% of all scientists in the US are Christians. Billions of people believe in the religion of their choice.
Second of all, most philosophers have struggled over this and have reached consensus that is not possible to prove God does or does not exist. Great reason-based arguments have been developed that suggest God must exist, but, they do not prove it. The arguments against God's existence are generally weak or unrealistically paradoxical.
Personally, if science could ever show that life is self-creating, then, that would do it for me. But, not only has science not done this, but, it is unlikely it can.
The existence of a higher power, a creator is far more likely than not. If you were to really investigate, you would find your beliefs are far more faith based than a Christian. Christ did live. This natural force that creates life somehow but is random and not a creator, that no scientist can find is like a mythological ghost, and you believe in it.
By the way, that is ok. Why don't you just believe what you do, and let others believe in what they do? Let's talk about it and debate it, but, your question was inherently antagonistic.
Take care!
2006-09-29 09:23:20
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answered by Cogito Sum 4
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You cannot prove a negative. Also, I think you are generalizing far too much. The "once saved always saved" doctrine is misunderstood to mean you can conduct yourself any way you want and then 'confess' your sins, and get a new slate. It simply does not work that way. Sincere Christians take care that their conduct is in agreement with Bible principles, and know that 'salvation' depends on persevering to do the will of God, and the status of 'saved' can be revoked if one continues to do what is bad. I believe in Christ, but I am also a researcher and am naturally curious of other ideas that don't seem to conform to mine. I take the time to investigate whether or not my understanding is correct...for me. I have changed my spiritual beliefs when I was presented with inescapable Bible evidence that proved I was on the wrong track regarding certain principals. Your last sentence "What is it about their thinking that makes them incapable of even considering this fact?" I'm not too sure which 'fact' you are referring to.
2006-09-29 09:14:57
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answered by The Oldest Man In The World 6
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There is no evidence to show that God does not exist. He does and He always has. He made you and loves you, even though you're not willing to admit or believe it. Yes, once you are REALLY saved, there is no turning back from the belief that there is a God and that He died so that we each might have eternal life! Those who have truly experience a living and active walk with God would never give it up. Hundreds of thousands of Christians have died for their faith in the last 2000 years. Who would die for something if it weren't truly worth living for!
2006-09-29 09:30:45
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answered by shewz27 2
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hmm, a hypothetical question called fact?
lets logically analylze this. the best way would be to put on thier/my shoes.
lets say i have evidence that God did exists? would you belive it? if i presented this evidence to you would you change your opinon? no? why not? what is it about your thinking that makes you incapable of considering this evidence that i just presented?
2006-09-29 09:19:32
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answered by Anonymous
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Your question proves the existence of God.
The fact that you can be so egotistical as to believe that there is no being higher than humans shows such limitation.
You have it all figured out, don't you.
Assuming that you're correct, why is your heart so cold and disrespectful to your fellow human being, that you would attempt to put doubt in the minds of beleivers? Maybe thier faith is what keeps them going in this world of ours.
Maybe they have found something that you just haven't found yet.
And maybe someday when your standing in front of God, you'll look at this and feel more sorrow than you can imagine. Because it wasn't enough that you did'nt believe in Him, but you chose to try to make others lose thier faith.
2006-09-29 09:13:02
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answered by atomictulip 5
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What evidence would you offer for the non-existence of God? A person who is saved, knows God personally. Therefore when you say God doesn't exist, they wonder why you think so, since they KNOW God exists having met him.
Disproving the existence of something is much more difficult that proving the existence of something. To prove existence, all one has to do is exhibit an example.
Conversely, what evidence would be sufficient for you to believe in God. Would someone rising from the dead do it? (I mean today. Suppose your dead grandmother came to you and told you God existed.)
2006-09-29 09:07:30
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answered by Theodore R 2
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I would say it isnt your job to present such things. Faith in something higher than oneself, to let go of the ego that bounds us to this world. If you go around trying to upset the belief systems of others, you may find that although this world may not be the most wonderful place, it could be worse. If People have nothing to believe in then they become desensitzed beings who are capable of great chaos. Religion, no matter how diverse it can be still holds a purpose in this world. And even if we dont agree with those principles we still must respect them. I wish you well
2006-09-29 09:07:57
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answered by fryedaddy 3
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Provide your proof, and I shall consider it.
It is not my thinking that makes me "incapable" of even considering anything (you call what you present a "fact" if you like, but what you actually did propose above is a threadbare hypothesis). It is the evidence that is in my soul that makes me certain. My thinking is neither crippled nor deluded by the evidence in my soul. It is clarified.
And still, all that aside, present your evidence, my friend, and let's see what I--or others--do...instead of prejudging the lot of us in the most unfavorable light.
2006-09-29 09:04:57
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answered by Gestalt 6
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