Does the bible prove the trinity theory wrong?

Question

Matt 26:39 (why would Jesus pray to himself like this?)
John 8:17,18 (why would jesus say 'the fatther who sent me', wouldn't that be him?)
Mark 13:32 (how would the father know something the son doesn't?)
John 14:28 (How could Jesus go to himself and be greater than himself?)
1 Peter 1:3 (How can Jesus be the father of Himself?)
And why is 'trinity' never mentioned in the bible?

For those quoting 1 John 5:7,8
The translation is closer to "7. For there are three witness bearers, 8. the spirit and the water and the blood, and the three are in agreement."

I did do some research before posting this question .

Answer 1

Yes,

Begotten means to be born, created (The American Heritage Dictionary: “to cause to exist”) Therefore Jesus had a beginning and didn’t always exist. “Only begotten” means Jesus was the only thing created directly and solely by God. After creating Jesus, Jesus became God’s master worker and helped create everything else.

(John 3:18) He that exercises faith in him is not to be judged. He that does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.

While on earth the Father was greater than Jesus, and after Jesus went to heaven this continued so.

As much as Jesus is above man God is above Jesus and this is after Jesus has been in heaven 30 years

In the Christian Congregation, man is not equal to Jesus, women are not equal to men, nor is Jesus equal to God.

(John 14:28) YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am.

(1 Corinthians 11:3) But I want YOU to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the Christ is God.

Jesus denies being the only true God and explains that our everlasting life depends on knowing the only true God.

Jesus shares the Glory that was his prior to coming to the earth with his disciples. Something that humans cannot share with God. (Isaiah 42:8)

(John 17:3,5,22) This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. 5 So now you, Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was. 22 Also, I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one.

Jesus died and was resurrected, (Harper’s Bible Dictionary : “Resurrection, literally, the return to life of the dead.”) God cannot die, if Christ is God then Christ did not die, which means he was not resurrected, and if he did not die and then resurrected we have no hope of everlasting life. If Christ did not die and was not resurrected then the apostles and the 500 witnesses are liars.

(Acts 2:32) This Jesus God resurrected, of which fact we are all witnesses.

Jesus was sent to be a messiah (anointed one or christ), a prophet and a servant

(Acts 3:22) In fact, Moses said, ‘Jehovah God will raise up for YOU from among YOUR brothers a prophet like me. YOU must listen to him according to all the things he speaks to YOU.

Paul and Peter didn’t believe in the trinity, they believed that the Father (Jehovah) was the God of Jesus Christ.
Upon the testimony of two or more witnesses ~ the truth is established. Peter confirms that Jesus is not God

(Romans 15:6) that with one accord YOU may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

(1 Peter 1:3) Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

and the list goes on.

Answer 2

There are many theological terms or words used that are not in the Bible. A main reason for that is that a word like trinity is an English one and not one of the original Bible languages such as Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic. The Bible does not prove the trinity concept wrong only people's interpretations do. The trinity has been a foundational belief since the beginning of the New Testament church. The majority of the early church fathers or leaders writings prove that. Jesus is not the Father he is the second person of the godhead. Genisis 1:26 clearly states, "Let US make man in OUR image" and according to OUR likeness". It's there from the get go. I won't show more examples because it would take way too long here.

Answer 3

The trinity simply means that there are three individuals, exactly as the Bible states but they work in union to save man kind.

Trinity:
There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three co-eternal Persons. God is immortal, all-powerful, all-knowing, above all, and ever present. He is infinite and beyond human comprehension, yet known through His self-revelation. He is forever worthy of worship, adoration, and service by the whole creation. (Deut. 6:4; Matt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14; Eph. 4:4-6; 1 Peter 1:2; 1 Tim. 1:17; Rev. 14:7.)

Answer 4

Sure it does! True Christians fundamental beliefs are based on that sacred book! The word it self does not appear even once in the Bible, that has been a misunderstanding. But when you read the whole Bible appropriately you start to find out some doctrines are wrong. Jesus said there was someone trying to mislead us to the wrong path using lies because ""he's a lier and the master of lies" (John 8:44). You are right in having doubts any who try to reason realized there's no logical for this unreasonable believe! Some people got confuse when talking about this, all give a different meaning to this , and most cant explain because they say its a mystery...God gave us all what we want to know on his word; the Bible; please read it people!

Answer 5

The Christian doctrine of the Trinity is part of every major creed in the history of Christendom. It can be defined in the following way: In the nature of the one God there are three centers of consciousness, which we call persons, and these three are equal. Though the term "trinity" is not found in the Bible, the doctrine is nevertheless taught there. "Trinity " is merely the term employed by theologians and church historians in order to describe the phenomena of God they find in the Bible.

The doctrine of the Trinity is arrived at in much the same way as a scientific theory. A scientific theory, for the most part, is a reasoned explanation of observed (or unobserved, in some cases) phenomena in the natural world. Analogously, the doctrine of the Trinity is a reasoned explanation of what we observe to be the phenomena of God in the Bible. Church fathers, councils, denominations, etc. have been so overwhelmed with the evidence for the trinity in the scripture that there has been a universal creedal acknowledgement in church history. The argument behind the doctrine can be put this way:

Premise 1: The Bible teaches that there is only one God.
*This premise is almost universally accepted by those who claim to be Christians. For this reason, it should suffice to simply cite
I Timothy 2:5, which reads: "For there is only one God, and there is only mediator between God and mankind, himself a man, Christ Jesus...

Premise 2: The Bible teaches that there are three distinct persons called God, known as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
*That there is a person named the Father, who is called God, is acknowledged by a host of Biblical passages, such as I Cor. 1:3, which reads: "May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ send you grace and peace." (see also, Rom 1:7; I Pet 1:17). Because virtually no pseudo-Christian cultist disputes this point, the above citation should suffice.
*The Bible also asserts that Jesus of Nazareth is God. That is, the Son is God as well as the Father. In John 8:56-59 Jesus calls Himself "I am," equating himself with Jehovah God of the Old Testament (Ex. 3:14). Christ's participation in the creation of the cosmos necessitates that He is God (John 1:3 and Collosians 1:16 cf. Isaiah 44:24).

Conclusion: So, the three persons - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are the one God.
*According to the "Jesus Only" sect (a.k.a "Oneness Pentecostalism,"), the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are not distinct persons who share the same nature and being, but rather, they are the same person. Each title--"Father," "Son," and "Holy Spirit"--represents a different mode by which God, a single person, manifests Himself, just as "uncle," "husband," and "brother" each represents a different mode by which Frank Beckwith (FB), a single human person, manifests himself. This is why the ancient heresy which Oneness embraces is called "modalism."

Hope this helps. Thanks.

Answer 6

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit is like the soul, the body and the works in a single person.


those of the church who come from this world having an idea of three Divine beings cannot be admitted into heaven,
since their thought wanders from one Divine being to another; and it is not allowable there to think three and say one.{1} Because in heaven everyone speaks from his thought, since speech there is the immediate product of the thought, or the thought speaking. Consequently, those in this world who have divided the Divine into three, and have adopted a different idea of each, and have not made that idea one and centered it in the Lord, cannot be received into heaven, because in heaven there is a sharing of all thoughts, and therefore if any one came thinking three and saying one, he would be at once found out and rejected. But let it be known that all those who have not separated what is true from what is good, or faith from love, accept in the other life, when they have been taught, the heavenly idea of the Lord, that He is the God of the universe. It is otherwise with those who have separated faith from life, that is, who have not lived according to the precepts of true faith (Heaven and Hell n.2).

Answer 7

This is a good question and I can't wait to see other peoples answers because I don't really know any verses from the bible. I grew up Catholic, never really paid any attention though, However, I always understood that they are all separate but you can not have one without the other, Christians believe if you don't believe in Christ then you don't believe in God or if you Believe in God you then must believe in The Holy Spirit, and so on for every other angle you can look at that. I don't think Christians beleive they are all one physically, anyways... thats the way I see it. I know a lot of christians that are confused about it. Hell...I'm probably way off.

Answer 8

Jesus was cooperating with his human nature...He did not HAVE to, he CHOSE to.. Jesus has two natures...completely divine, and completely human..

consider the words attributed to Jesus (whether or not the reporting of them was correct) in Matthew 24:35. "Heaven and earth shall pass away," He is said to have said, "But my words shall not pass away."
What an arrogant, foolish statement that seems to be, reputedly spoken by an outwardly uneducated, unpublished, itinerant preacher, with a small band of ignorant followers in an insignificant captive state in the Middle East! Why, the man must have been mad to make such a claim! Or so it would seem, unless it were somehow true.
As a matter-of-fact, for almost 2000 years His words have not passed away!
This claim constitutes an amazing prophecy, fulfilled in worldwide outreach, with the words of Christ probably read and believed by more people than any other words ever spoken. He may never have written a book, but His Bible is the world's all-time best seller, and more books have been written about Him and His teachings than those of any other man in history.
And consider also His claim in John 8:12, "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." How could an uncultured carpenter from a despised village in a small province ever presume to assert that he was the very light that would enlighten the entire world? Absurd!
Yet there have been millions down through the centuries who have testified that He was, indeed, the light of their world! Furthermore, He has been the inspiration for the world's greatest music, its finest art, multitudes of hospitals, schools, and charitable institutions of all kinds. The world today would, indeed, be in gross darkness had it not been for the multitudes of concerned and caring men and women who have followed Him.
Still another remarkable fulfilled prophecy is found in Matthew 16:18. "Upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Unbelievers may be able to find various problems with His church (that is, with all those believers who stand upon the Rock of Peter's great confession, in Matthew 16:16, that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God), but they cannot ignore the fact that the church exists! That small body of twelve unpromising disciples has somehow become a great host of millions in every age, in spite of intense opposition and persecution continually seeking to destroy it. How could such things be, unless Christ really is the Son of God?

Answer 9

1 John 5:7, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

1 X 1 X 1 = 1

Answer 10

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
KJV
I know it is a hard concept. Think of it like this
The Sun, the light of the sun and the heat of the sun.
The sun-God, the light-Jesus, the heat-the Holy Spirit (you can't see heat) These are all one, but they are different.