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I understand that Jesus died for our sins so that would have a shot and getting in to heaven. That part I got and am grateful for it. Here's what I don't get..
Why would our all loving, all wise, all powerful heavenly father set up a scenario that would force his own son to go through a physical hell because of the acts of the first angel that he (God) created. If God is omniscient, wouldn't he have seen this comming and removed Lucifer from the grand design as to not put Jesus through this? Or, is there something else going on that we haven't been told? Okay, I'm done, your thoughts plz.

2006-09-29 07:56:41 · 13 answers · asked by Odindmar 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Yes God is omniscient, and He knew what was going to happen. He wouldn't remove this plan because that would change so many things. First he wouldn't take Lucifer out of the picture because his temptations bring us closer to Christ as we have to trust in him for strength. Second sending His only Son to die for us is the ultimate sign of love for us.

2006-09-29 08:15:44 · answer #1 · answered by cnm 4 · 0 1

Crucifixion was the way of execution in those days in that area. In other areas they did it otherwise.

The carpenter Jeoshua bin Joseph claimed he was a son of Jachweh (Yahwe, Jehova), who was the only God the Jewish accepted.

Of course this was a big insult to all the believers at the time. This would not have caused him death, probably, but he went further and messed up some people's business in the temples. There was a lot of business going on in the temples at the time, and the carpenter was upset about it. The merchandise in the temple and such.

Imagine someone would mess with the Mafia (or Mob) nowadays. You know what happens: they will get away with the disturber of the business. And so did the mighty Jews.

They did away with him who disturbed their business.

It took about 335 years until the followers of the carpenter founded a big enough community to become important. After that, they took evil revenche on all Jews in all countries they would ever find them. Holocausts have been done through all centuries since christianity became important, and it became really big after 1300 in Europe. The german holocaust was only the last one, and at that time cameras were invented, so it was all captured. There have been more massacres in Spain, France and other places before, but due to the lack of cameras in former centuries, people nowadays think it wasn't that bad.

OK, but back to your question: it was the way execution was done at that time in that area. I think that is the main point here.

2006-09-29 08:20:23 · answer #2 · answered by albgardis T 3 · 0 0

well supprizingly the answer to this, is actualy found in TheLittle Book of Parashas Bereeshees in TheTorah. where adam is commanded to try and find a true mate, and cannot find one true animal for his mate. so G-D has Him put to death on the tree of life, and takes from aside the woman. and returns them in the resurrection of the dead. these are the two wittnesses of the The Son of Man, because they both are, in your book you call Revelation. and if you have failed you will teach them your way to fail. so that when they die, HaShem G-D puts them both back into the same unique one body. and sends you all through TheWhole Torah Accounting just again. TheOne you are talking about is not a different Adam. it is the very exact same Adam as always in TheTorah HaShem G-D always gives. this is the third visitation of our iniquities, and the second death. which means the One you are talking about has already been put to death twice before here in TheTorah, as always from G-D.

2006-09-29 08:24:28 · answer #3 · answered by yehoshooa adam 3 · 0 0

Jesus was God in the flesh and natural world.

God did this for us. He loves us so much and seeks us for a relationship that He gave Himself for us! WOW!

God created Lucifer and the rest of the angels to have free will too. He always knew of the possibilities of evil.

We don't always have all the answers. With God all things are possible, even when we (humans) can't wrap our minds around it.

It's all a part of the Big Picture...God see it (big pic) we only see the part we are in...

Blessings!

2006-09-29 08:02:34 · answer #4 · answered by Salvation is a gift, Eph 2:8-9 6 · 1 1

Umm... the prophecy of the woman's seed in the Garden of Eden. God did know it would happen and still provided a way for mankind to be reconciled to The Father in heaven.

2006-09-29 07:58:54 · answer #5 · answered by ___ 3 · 2 1

He did that to express His love. Don't forget that Jesus is God also and He went through that to express His love and to give us an example of how to live.

"16For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16

It is only through trials that we grow closer to God, so if there were no trials, how would we get closer to God?

2006-09-29 08:09:50 · answer #6 · answered by G W 2 · 1 1

He was without sin He was the only one who could die for our sins Jesus knew there was no other way but through His sacrifice
I could only imagine how Jesus feels when He finds people not believing in Him, he must cry alot knowing people rejects Him as their Lord and Savior.
my answer probably didn't answer your question but, thats why He had to die

2006-09-29 08:10:16 · answer #7 · answered by April A 2 · 1 1

When humans ate from the tree of knowledge we opened the door to Satan not God...God was angry with us so he cast us out of Eden...But because we are his children he forgave us...So in conclusion we started it not him...He also gave us... or we ourselves have the ability to cast Satan out of our hearts and remove him from earth...As Dr. Phil would say we (you) have to take ownership of our part in this...You cant blame God for something we started...Understand now?

2006-09-29 08:07:05 · answer #8 · answered by Brad I 3 · 1 1

flesh will die...we know that..no eternal life unless sin is forgiven cuz He isnt going to allow sinners to inherit eternal life. Lucipher was already immortal when he rebelled...see what happens with freewill? some will be stupid but we arent robots..

2006-09-29 08:00:21 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

It wasn't. The whole idea of something having to die in order to make it ok that someone else did something wrong, just doesn't make sense.

2006-09-29 07:57:54 · answer #10 · answered by nondescript 7 · 2 2

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