Intelligent design and the The endosymbiont theory and mitochondria and chloroplasts?

Question

Just wondering if anyone who believes in intelligent design could give me an explantation why the creator would put such a simple prokaryotic organism in a eukaryotic cell. In other words, why would somebody create an organism to put inside another organism?

How ya like that, biatches?

Ok, for those not up on biology, endosymbiotic theory is about the origins of mitochondria and plastids .According to this theory, these organelles originated as separate prokaryotic organisms which were taken inside the cell as endosymbionts. So why would a creator do that?

Answer 1

Anyone who believes the human "design" is intelligent has clearly not actually examined the human body.



Although in your case, Spookshow, there might be an argument for a highly creative creator with an eye for aesthetics...

Answer 2

Good question, but I'm not God so I"m going compare it with things I do know.
Human beings are not just one organism. We are a community of organisms working together (in a perfect world) to promote life, guided by a singular sentience. No, I'm not talking about cities, I'm talking about the cells that make up the human body. The common theme in the universe that I've seen has been a bunch of things getting together to make something greater than themselves. I won't even pretend to know what a in particular you're talking about but consider this:
That same process you just explained could be sex. A man tries to use his " organ" and place several " organisms" inside of a woman to create another organism. Now though the reason vary, that is basically what happens.
As for why? That's easy, so we would ask.

I hope this helps, best wishes.

Answer 3

One may assume to explain evolutionary change as a working hypothesis, but we should keep in mind that large changes in evolution are basically a "black box" and a series of small incremental changes may play only a trivial, fine-tuning role in any transition (there is no evidence to think otherwise). What's more, bacteria, as the predominant life forms on this planet, which have experience the most evolution of all life forms, tell us clearly that need not apply to biological evolution.

In the end, appeals to small change + deep time are embraced merely as a matter of convenience, as it happens to be the primary way we can think about evolution at a time when we are just starting to come to grips with it. As we begin to better understand the process of evolution, I predict will one day be viewed as a quaint understanding that served mostly to highlight just how much we didn't understand evolution.
The eloquence of explanation has been overshadowed by the inexplicable reasons of unexplainable phenomenon.
Your turn.

Answer 4

There could be many reasons. Only God knows, and so the overarching reason is that it suited his good purposes to do so.

Another reason could be because that which God created--what is physical--oftentimes mirrors what is true about the human soul. God put evidence of spiritual truth inside of physical truth, as "clues."

For example, a bacterium--a prokaryote--is a tiny little thing that seems negligible in and of itself. And yet if a host of prokaryotes develops within a eukaryotic organism, that eukaryote could easily succumb to the infestation and die. That is, take one Staphylococcus aureus--just one, on its own, seemingly harmless. And yet it has the ability to replicate on its own, and so it can colonize and become an infestation that can kill someone. People who are otherwise weakened can and do die from Staph.

Now, what does this mean? Compare it to a seed of doubt--seemingly harmless, impotent, not much to look at. But it is in the not looking at it, and thereby allowing it to replicate itself, where the damage is done. A seed of doubt if not tended to--much like one Staph bacterium untended to--can overtake the entire system (in this case, the human soul) and cause it to become "infested" with disease.

A bacterium relies on its host for its life--as its host is its environment. One may either eradicate it from its system (in the case of Staph, through antibiotics [if the Staph is not drug-resistant]), thereby making the environment unhospitable, or one may allow it to thrive, perhaps to one's own demise.

A metaphor.

The case of drug-resistant prokaryotes is a whole other story, which I will be happy to detail for you if you wish to email me and continue this discussion.

All that said, there are many prokaryotes that are beneficial to a eukaryotic organism. Again, a reflection in the physical realm of the life of the soul. There are tiny things that are inherently good to the overall well-being of the person--microcellularly and spiritually. If we allow helpful tiny things to grow, thrive, and do their jobs, then we are well. If we somehow interfere in their processes--e.g., by overusing antibacterial scrubs and whatnot--then we open ourselves up to disease, like skin infestations. There are things in the soul--the tiny seed of hope, for example--that, when allowed to thrive, keep the human being spiritually fit and well-balanced.

The above are my personal observations. They are not scriptural. But when you are speaking of intelligent design, and I am thinking of an intelligent designer, I see his fingerprints all over every little thing, and I read who he is and what he is saying to me in all that he has created.

Answer 5

I would suspect that most of the answers you get that try to explain this will fall back on the typical response that is similar to "God doesn't think like us, so we have know way of knowing why he did what he did." OOPS wait, you said intelligent design, and therefore this is not a religious theory. I mean "The intelligent designer doesn't think like us, so we have no way of knowing why he or she did what he or she did"

Answer 6

Thats because the creator is a little more capable of miracles than your small human mind can comprehend.
Don't you think the various relationships between species, and the balance of our ecosystems, the geometric proportions of nature, the fibonacci numbers of plants, the dependance of life on sunlight etc etc are all indicators of intelligence?

Answer 7

I remember discussing the symbiosis and duplication of mitochondria during my biology courses.

Anyone who is familiar with the process will surely agree that they came about naturally, and were not a product of design.

Cell mitosis (especially regarding mitochondria) is so flawed and half-assed, any designer claiming responsibility must have been drunk that day.

Answer 8

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Answer 9

You must be referring to the process of procreation and birth.

In a nutshell, and so even you can understand this: The creation cannot be equal to or greater than the creator. Therefore, embryonic life forms (not life itself) was a necessary addition to the creation.

How ya like that, biyatch!?

Answer 10

Coral needs algae to exist.