My niece and her friends pray at the flagpole every morning. I join them sometimes. And IM A LIBERAL.
Don't they realize that what was banned was FORCED prayer in schools, which was offending many Catholics, whose chidlren did not believe in what was being said.
2006-09-28 15:23:14 · 13 answers · asked by Tofu Jesus 5 in Politics & Government ➔ Politics
There are some schools that won't allow your prayers with your niece around the flagpole, because an atheist/Jewish/Muslim child might see you and feel "left out". The right has exaggerated the problem, but it does exist. Some schools (not the majority) and some parents take things way too far, to the point where other people's rights are trampled on to protect theirs.
2006-09-28 15:28:14 · answer #1 · answered by MEL T 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
As usual, conservatives are misinformed.
Noone has ever even suggested that prayer not be allowed in school...at least not Christian prayer. At the school I went to in High School, there were several Christian prayer groups...one of which I had been a part of, but prayer groups started for other religions were banned. There was a Wiccan group that wanted to do ritual worship in groups at lunch, and the leaders were expelled.
Liberals just don't want to force prayer of any religion on anyone, because we are allowed the freedom of religion in this country. Forcing a religion on someone by forcing them to pray to one God is not freedom of religion. Period.
It amazes me how many Evangelical Rightys suggest that the US is, and has always been a Christian Country, and the "freedom of religion" only applies to Protestant Christianity, saying that the founding fathers just meant that they should have the freedom to be Protestant. Obviously, this is absurd.
Liberals believe kids should be able to pray to whatever God they worship. Conservatives believe that kids should be forced to pray to the Protestant Christian God only. Which makes sense to you?
2006-09-28 15:34:24 · answer #2 · answered by corwynwulfhund 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm a supporter of the wall of separation, but I agree that stopping kids from praying around the flagpole or almost anywhere else when they are not in class is wrong. Any school forced prayer is equally wrong. The balance is tenuous, and it should be.
2006-09-28 15:36:29 · answer #3 · answered by notme 5 · 1⤊ 0⤋
It's because they WANT to force everyone to take time out IN SCHOOL to pray... instead of doing their OWN religious teaching at home, they want the educational system to do that for their little yokel kids, too, and to show the world how holier than thou they supposedly are (total hypocrisy).
The fact of the matter is that school hours are short enough. Let's face it, our technological advances are moving at the speed of light and our educational system is crawling at a snail's pace... with so much wasted time and foolish paperwork, political correctness and total out and out b/s with the inept, incompetent and malfeasant teachers that can't teach (due to lowered standards and the fact that once hired it's so difficult to fire those nincompoops). And these parents "feel" that their kids need to pray before the start of every class (thusly drawing time away from the actual teaching of academic subjects that others kids need to learn, if their children feel they don't) but those are the same kids that do not pray at home when they're home every few hours...! It's just total, unadulterated, 100% pork-free b u l l s h i t by those fanatical idiots that wish to impost their religion on the rest of the world.
2006-09-28 15:49:46 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
They are misinformed. When I was in high school there was group of students who formed a prayer circle around the flagpole every morning.
2006-09-28 15:26:32 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I've also brought this point up to many conservatives. The current law does not make it illegal for your child to pray at school. All it says is that the school can not organize, sponsor, or endorse any prayers or prayer meetings. That is how it should be.
2006-09-28 15:36:46 · answer #6 · answered by ndmagicman 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
At the flagpole, in the morning, before school.
My 5 year old told me he wasn't allowed to pray at lunch. I'm sure he made that up...
And, he was very offended, by the way, if anyone cares about that... Oh, right we just make this stuff up for politics...
2006-09-28 15:30:49 · answer #7 · answered by ? 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Banning a silent time to allow for prayer is as much making/enforcing atheism as a religion. Just a thought personally I'm agnostic, in part to honor what is said in the Bible by Jesus. to Para phase: There are those that say they know me, but don't & will treat them harsher than those that acknowledge they don't know me. I'm looking for a relationship that is 2 sided. I have to know there is some one active on the other side.
The fact that some say they know or that you just have to take it on faith. I answer them with 1 name, Thomas.
2006-09-28 15:33:37 · answer #8 · answered by viablerenewables 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
sure. Who can end them? no one. My 1st grandchild, does. She lives in a house, the position they are alcoholics, drug-abusers, they don't feed her, take her to college, the Dr or dentist, nor help her w/ homework at the same time as she does attend college. they are no type of Christian in any respect. yet, i'm, and that i practice her. She Loves God and Jesus- she will be able to and does pray at the same time as and the position she needs. no one can end her.
2016-11-25 01:42:02 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
May I ask who forced kids to pray? How do you force someone to pray?
When I was in school, and someone said let's bow our heads to pray, I didn't.
But the idea is that there should be no prayer in schools.
There is but just don't tell me I can't.
2006-09-28 15:29:36 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋