When's the last time an Atheist president said Christians shouldn't be considered patriots or even citizens?
When's the last time an Atheist told you who you can and can't marry?
When's the last time an Atheist made it illegal for Christians to run for office or testify in court in several states?
When's the last time an Atheist banned Christians from a public funded group like the Boy Scouts?
When's the last time an Atheist made you unable to shop at certain stores or go to the bank on certain days because of their beliefs?
When's the last time an Atheist killed for his/her beliefs?
When's the last time an Atheist added lines to the origional pledge of allegiance to reflect their own beliefs?
When's the last time an Atheist tried to pull a fast one you by making laws based on something that the constitution clearly says laws shouldn't be based on?
Think about this the next time you wonder why Atheists are here.
2006-09-27
18:05:55
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Wow, Jim, you sure showed me....
That doesn't even make any sense.
2006-09-27
18:09:32 ·
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Regina, sweetheat, based on religious beliefs? Give me a break. George Washington, Ben Franklin, and plenty of other of the founding fathers were Athests. Look it up.
2006-09-27
18:13:17 ·
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*Atheists.
2006-09-27
18:13:30 ·
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Actually, eusebious, I'm usually the first to volunteer to work on holidays. You know what they say what happens when you assume...
2006-09-27
18:15:34 ·
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To Regina and others who claim I haven't done my homework:
US Constition:
"Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
The Treaty of Tripoli:
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
2006-09-27
18:20:43 ·
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Am I considered immoral? I do charity work, I tutor dislexic kids, I even donate to church programs that help battered women. I can't recall the last time I beat up a gay man.
2006-09-27
18:22:29 ·
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Am I considered immoral? I do charity work, I tutor dislexic kids, I even donate to church programs that help battered women. I can't recall the last time I beat up a gay man.
2006-09-27
18:22:37 ·
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What you look it up at, Regina, a Christian site? By the way, you've never answered any of my questions.
2006-09-27
18:24:52 ·
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Okay, I got one fact wrong I apologize....but no Christians ever answered my questions...
2006-09-27
18:26:11 ·
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All good points. Religion's "supposed" goal is to bring people together, but all it does it create violence and pushes people further from each other. Especially so when you get the nuttos that say you're going to hell if you don't follow THEIR religion precisely. And here's something a bit unrelated that I always like to throw their way:
It's about the existence of God:
"To explain the origin of DNA/protein machine by invoking a supernatural Designer is to explain precisely nothing, for it leaves unexplained the origin of the Designer. You have to say something like 'God was always there', and if you allow yourself that kind of lazy way out, you might as well just say 'DNA was always there', or 'Life was always there', and be done with it." -Richard Dawkins (an atheist, author of several national bestsellers)--The Blind Watchmaker
** To the original poster....you're right about Ben Franklin, etc. Read: The God Delusion....it just came out, also by Dawkins:
Thomas Jefferson, for instance, claimed "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man" (p. 43). Benjamin Franklin said "Lighthouses are more useful than churches" (p. 43). A 1796 treaty signed by John Adams declares, "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" (p. 40). Adams also said, "this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it" (p. 43). Even conservative icon, Barry Goldwater, threatened to fight fundamentalists "every step of the way if they try to dictate their moral convictions to all Americans" (p. 39).
** Many scientists are atheists, so in response to the fool who posted above me...plenty of us have amounted to MANY farts in the wind. From a scientist's perspective..it's merely a release of methane into the air. That's pretty significant.
2006-09-27 18:08:58
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answered by Anonymous
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I don't consider atheists unpatriotic. I may have missed it, but I don't recall a president saying so.
Atheists can marry. I never heard of anyone prohibiting it.
There have been many occasions when a group of Christians such as Quakers or Mormons were prevented from having their rights by other 'Christians'. It isn't just atheists.
The atheists and gays have gotten the Scouts banned from public facilities.
Businesses and government used to close for religious reasons, now it's just part of the 40 hour week. Banks are basically open 24/7.
I don't think murder for a religious cause is ever right.
To reverse the pledge is just the same as the making the original change. Just being PC.
Atheists on the Mass Supreme Court pulled a fast one.
2006-09-28 02:21:04
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answered by Isolde 7
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Well some of that stuff sounds bad. Usually those things are debatable. Like the Boy Scouts being a christian organiztion to begin with. If athiests made an organiztion and didn't want christians in it wouldn't that be a right worth protecting.
But that being said I do believe that it's gone to far in some areas. Each side is passionate about what they believe. Much more willing to scream than to listen.
2006-09-28 01:28:52
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answered by Mister Farlay 2
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Don't Get It Twisted. There's A Good And Bad Side To Everything, Whether Christian, Buddist, Or Atheist. I Don't Think You Can Say Atheists Are The Best People In The World, Cause Trust Me, I've Met My Share And Some Have Loose Screws, And I Don't Mean Regarding Philosophy Or Religion.....
2006-09-28 01:13:13
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answered by Can't Make A Good Avatar!!! 3
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I'm an atheist, well said. I want to let you know however that George Washington and Ben Franklin were not atheists. Ben Franklin was a deist and there is debate to whether Washington was a deist or a Christian. There's no doubt that they supported separation between church and state though.
2006-09-28 01:23:54
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answered by Anonymous
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well then get out of america, where its based on religion beliefs and move somewhere that welcomes atheist. or how about get your atheistic views out of the school system and let prayer back in, or how about open your eyes and see that there is a God that created u and u are feeling alone and lost and obviously angry and need Him
u look it up, most went to church faithfully, evidently u didn't do your homework
by the way i just looked it up and NONE OF THE FOUNDING FATHERS WERE ATHEISTS NOT ONE, they weren't christians either but they believed in a supreme being
u haven't done your homework because u claimed the founding fathers was atheists and i can prove u wrong and u probably looked it up after making such a stupid and ignorant claim and now u know i was right, just because the constitution doesn't mention God in it doesn't mean they were atheists
good glad u admit u got that wrong
as far as the pledge of allegiance it was wrote by a christian socialists.
as far as im concerned i don't know too much information about the others to answer but im sure being an atheists doesn't effect them except for the boy scouts which an atheist can join but they just have to recite a pledge i think,
2006-09-28 01:11:48
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answered by Anonymous
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Can i ask you quite seriously, as an ignorant Australian and a non-Christian...Did these things actually occurr? and was it the USA.....because this is too unbelievable! Especially if it is the USA the apparent land of the free! (my a*s). if this did happen why do they think it is a Christian nation.....what about the native Americans....what about some of their most famous people like Steven Speilberg, Bob Dylan etc.......
2006-09-28 02:57:04
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answered by Anonymous
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Not trying to be rude but the reason atheists don't do these things is because they really don't care about morality. Since morality must come from some higher authority who has decided what is right and what is wrong then according to your beliefs no one has the right to tell anyone that anything they are doing is wrong.
If there is no God, there is no right, there is no wrong. We are all just animals. When one animal kills another it's not wrong it's just what they do. Likewise when one human kills another, whithout God it's not wrong it's just what humans do.
2006-09-28 01:17:14
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answered by yagman 7
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Nicely said. Christians think they're "under attack," but have the even seen what's been done in the name of their religion?
2006-09-28 01:11:35
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answered by Girl Wonder 5
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thats what im talking about. if you are really interested in this whole 'chistian right' junk read up The Fundalmentals of Extremism. it points out many of these facts.
2006-09-28 01:10:46
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answered by chloë 2
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