Who else refuses to say the pledge of allegiance as it currently stands?

Question

That one nation under God crap has to go.... we are NOT a Christian country. This country was founded on freedom from religious oppression from England. Time to remember that.

Okay any religion deifying "God"... .

Answer 1

I do stand for the pledge I don't recite it. I would if the original version was used.
For those unfamiliar with the original Pledge...

The original Pledge of Allegiance
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands- one nation indivisible-with liberty and justice for all."
On September 8,1892, the Boston based "The Youth's Companion" magazine published a few words for students to repeat on Columbus Day that year. Written by Francis Bellamy,the circulation manager and native of Rome, New York, and reprinted on thousands of leaflets, was sent out to public schools across the country. On October 12, 1892, the quadricentennial of Columbus' arrival, more than 12 million children recited the Pledge of Allegiance, thus beginning a required school-day ritual.

At the first National Flag Conference in Washington D.C., on June14, 1923, a change was made. For clarity, the words "the Flag of the United States" replaced "my flag". In the following years various other changes were suggested but were never formally adopted.

It was not until 1942 that Congress officially recognized the Pledge of Allegiance. One year later, in June 1943, the Supreme Court ruled that school children could not be forced to recite it. In fact,today only half of our fifty states have laws that encourage the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in the classroom!

In June of 1954 an amendment was made to add the words "under God". Then-President Dwight D. Eisenhower said "In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource in peace and war."

Blessings )O(

Answer 2

Hello!!! Anyone home? We Are a Christian country whether you want to believe that or not. You are right. This country was founded on religious freedom from the twisted religious oppression in England. That "one nation under God" part needs to stay right where it is. I will remember that. If you refuse to say the pledge of allegiance..well..that is your problem..not mine..but far as I am concerned...don't call yourself an American. If you still think this isn't a Christian nation, better tear up the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and completely wipe out the government because it is all based on principles of the Bible. If you still refuse all that..you seem to fit in certain Middle Eastern countries better than you do here.

Answer 3

As a non-christian believer of other deities than Yahweh (Jehova, Jachweh) I will never say these words.
I was 40 years old when I came here, so I did not have the problem in school.

But I will not become a citizen for this reason. I was on their website (immigration) and read their pledges, and I will not swear those words. I will have to stay a permanent resident under these circumstances.

Answer 4

Sorry dear, it was founded on Christian beliefs.
the Pilgrims, the Puritans, the Colonists all left England because they wanted to go to the protestant church of their choice. The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy and not one objected until now. Hmm what's different now, oh yeah, Freedom of Religion. Notice that no one is forcing you to say "under God" because we all know that's such a pain to say even though you have the choice whether or not to say it because of this free and blessed country. There's bigger things to b**** about, hon.

Answer 5

My father, who is a Jehovah's Witness, refuses to say the pledge as it is because they believe that it is a prayer to the flag itself. That would make the flag an idol and by saying the pledge of allegiance you are praying to an idol (the flag).

I don't really care. Sometimes I say it in French. The word "God" is very vague in English. The "under" part doesn't always work well with some religions, like mine, that doesn't view us as being under or beneath God (and I don't think that is the meaning one is supposed to take from the phrase anyways...in God, blessed by God, I think that's what the meaning was trying to make a point of).

If you'd like to start saying the Pledge in French here it is (the first is with "under God" and the second is without...not that anyone will notice unless they actually speak French).

Je promet le fidelite au drapeau des Etats-Unis d'Amerique, et a la republique pour sa position, une nation, sous Dieu, indivisible, avec la liberte et la justice pour tous.

Je promet le fidelite au drapeau des Etats-Unis d'Amerique, et a la republique pour sa position, une nation, indivisible, avec la liberte et la justice pour tous.

And if you're interested here it is translated and transliterated in Sanskrit (English meaning given below).

Madiya bandha nathavazibhuta a dhvaja Janapadas Anyonyamithuna America, abalyam adhikara abhi abhipurta, adhikara, abhijit Ishvara, acchinna, abhijan mokshana abalyam dharma abhi abhija.

My pledge of allegience to the flag of the United States of America, and to the government for which it has been fulfilled, the nation, under God*, undivided, to claim as one's birthright liberty and justice produced all around

*Technically the word Ishvara in Sanskrit is a Hindu term for God that means the personal God...for example Hindus have an ishtadevata or ishtadev which is the personally chosen name and form of God (mine is Ganesh...I have a friend's whose is Kali and another friend whose ishtadev is Krishna....all technically the same God, just a different name and form...a different symbolic representation of the one God). Literally Ishvara (sometimes written Ishwara because the w or v in Sanskrit is pronounces like you are speaking the v and then the w together so Ishvwara) means personal deity. You can substitute Ishvara with any deity name or with Brahman (Brahman is Sanskrit Brah-Manah and literally means "expanding consciousness"). Ishvara is usually the term used by Hindus to avoid the use of a specific name of deity (much like the term "God" is used in English today). In Hinduism one would not be "under God" thus technically a Hindu would never say this so the phrase really shouldn't be there in Sanskrit because it literally would mean under/beneath/below God. Since God manifested the entire universe into being from Itself the more proper phrase would either be "in God" or "of God" .

Answer 6

Fifty years ago no one did because "Under God" was not part of the pledge.You better check your history. The founding father's did not want to have a state religion, such what England had and still does. When you say "we" you best count me and millions of other Americans that are Christians out.

Answer 7

It's very easy to just not say the word or put the name of another deity in it's place if one chooses. Given some of the other things that go on in life, I don't find that one to be the most important when it is an easy fix for myself.

Answer 8

Read the writings of the founders of the US we were a Christian country. It is true that people like yourself have made the Us less of a Christian Nation but more would refuse to say the pledge if it changed than are refusing now. More claim o believe in God here than not. In fact more claim to be Christians here than not.

Answer 9

'Under God' and Christianity are not the same thing. Under God recognizes Deity, but in no way singles out or endorses Christianity.

You'll never put together an intelligent sounding argument on the subject until you understand that.

Answer 10

i dont say it

What GOD?????
i mean there is Jesus but where is God???
i dont pledge allegiance to some flag
why cant we just help people for once....saying it doesnt make the world a peaceful place

I sing the anthem though