If I 'snitch' or 'grass' on someone for criminal activity....?

Question

which offends me, and the rest of Joe Public, then what is the moral objection of the 'criminal class' against this provides them with a desire to seek what they conceive as 'their just deserts'?

This 'moral theory' makes them no better that 'terrorists' who are just as indiscriminate of the effects their actions have on society as a whole.

If you cannot argue points or a case without threats, then you have already lost and can expect to have society want its just deserves - which, with growing frequency, it does not get these days.

Answer 1

Then good on you for having the balls to do it. The society needs people with a sense of duty, not playing the policeman, but for the upholding of moral values and ethics. Unfortunately, the rest of the society, will denounce you for it because they ain't got the balls to fight, although they probably know that it is true (too frightened about recriminations). But, you need to use guerrilla tactics, do not overdo it..just give them the scent and let them do the work they are paid for, which rarely gets done anyway! My experience is that if you do fight for your right, you gotta go through a lot of sh***! Before you do it, a tip, talk to you Psychotherapist !!

Answer 2

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Answer 3

Firstly, I don't think many of the "criminal class" have any morals. If they did, they would not go around robbing, burgling, stealing etc. etc. A lot of this, I believe, is due to their poor upbringing - parents who feed them on junk food, send them out so that they can get on with their own lives, and don't care about their kids. A lot of the time these "criminals" have not had an education - they misbehave and either get excluded from, or don't bother going to school. I think society and the welfare state system need a good strong overhaul. Social security SHOULD NOT BE FOR LIFE! Which is the case with many of these "criminals" and their families before them.

And yes, to a certain extent they could be classed as terrorists - anyone who reports them gets terrorised by them in an effort to prevent them giving evidence.

I would like the politicians and judicial system in this country to wake up and realise what the majority of us law abiding citizens want - and how we would like them to sort out the mess that masquerades as the Great Britain!

Answer 4

What's the point of snitching unless they make their wrongdoing your business?

Nobody likes a tattletale.

Laws don't always implement the morality that they seemingly represent.

Sometimes criminality is the most readily available means of financial support. Naturally, this creates a trend. As a society, the lifestyles do not work. For individuals, it is an environmental reaction.

I love your rhetoric. "Criminal Class"? Do you mean poor people? Because if you do, you obviously forgot about Enron. If you didn't, I would like to know what you mean when you refer to "them."

Do you see no reason that one might distrust the dominant structures about them? If under no circumstances can you see the images and standards imposed by "Joe Public" as a source of anxiety for a number of groups, then I see your worldview as problematic and naiive.

I don't think I threatened you with my criminal ways....
BOO!

Answer 5

This is the first time I have read what appears to be a short diatribe rather than a straight forward question. Are you saying that the "criminal classes" feel that society is morally obligated to allow their criminal activities to go unpunished?

I gather the act of snitching or grassing on someone would label you a nark or a coppers nark?

I'd also like to know who you are labelling as "the criminal class?" Is it by any chance the working classes? The working classes'... throughout there recorded histories have been recorded as being the most dangerous and if they were to realise that courtesy of 'sheer size and dimension' could be the most 'powerful of classes'.

Or is this an age thing, you know all criminals must be below the age of 25. .. oh I know criminals are born of criminals...In reality this is really all a bit too general, hearsay isn't it? Maybe they could trace there family heritage when the writing is on the prison wall.

Society reaps what it sows, 'we don't actually have a criminal class'. If legislation and the language of qualification exists to prevent people socially rising in status within there social group, and beyond.. you will see and hear of criminal activity, i,e the neighbourhoods the working classes live in - will have pockets of poverty', unemployent', illhealth', and depravation'. This may sound very Dickensian or Elizabeth Gaskell, but take a look outside at your urban towns and the way in which they have spiralled out from the city centre. Look at the population mix and ask yourself how do they live, where do they work?

What is the true value of your postcode?

In the Victorian era, which is not so long ago the working classes would have survived with the aid of the black market economy, there was no such thing as a welfare state to help out. Parish relief was minimal and the work house was the last port of call -when you were 'down and out' or old and to frail to work. If you were lucky because the man in the household had paid into an alms house scheme ; as a result of being in a trade or guild, your family should they 'lose you' would at least have somewhere to live. But even in these circumstances the working classes and in particular women - may resort to the oldest criminal activity in the book, just to get by.In the census record though they will be marked as washer women or housewives. Is it fair to label this women a criminal because of her unfortunate circumstances? Josephine Butler would argue this issue.

Ok so these aren't our times, we have a welfare state. We have the benefit of an education, there are some who would argue that the state education is education only for the masses. But guess what this stops at 16 or 18, unless you afford to go into debt for a College or University course, then young peoples career chances are stitched up', if you are from a low income background. Yes there are young persons training schemes but they don't have job offers at the end. The employer takes on the next youth as the subsidies towards wages are encouraging of that circulatory feature of money cycles in the economy. Money theorists would talk of this aspect of money and production. Is it any wonder that some youth's are thus tempted to steal, and take drugs as a means of escape?

I believe I have mentioned the welfare state, the new Jerusalem and all that jazz. This to can be a trap because with no real training programmes and no real jobs at the end of a trial period - that 'pool of skilled, unskilled and semi skilled wanabe workers' will continue to grow.

The things most sought after for the human race in life, is happiness, a comfortable standard of living, and a fulfilling source employment to fill the days. It is vital to the area of moral codes of conduct that this should be fulfilled. It is a primary source of socialisation after family/homelife, education..Work. Without any of this you will have crime. Without real opportunities you will see recidivism (repeat offenders ) it is a cycle that replaces what the home community, society, education/training, work and government policing does not provide for.

In many criminological studies it is advantageous to some that criminals exist - as this raises the status of those gainfully employed, some in specific regions. Furthermore, in social sciences and demography studies of changes in the work place and with the skills range of the pool of unemployed essential to the working economy of those in regular employment. If the truth were told about the numbers really unemployed you'd be shocked, as it should include 7 million carers whom the government assume look after disabled and frail relatives out of love and duty.. in addition there is a similar figure on the sick if not more. Added to the official numbers unemplyed the reality is nearer 20 million people. I can't remember what the prison population is at present, but that system is seriously overstretched.

I have a question for you do you think we can solve this criminal, judicial, and overflowing issue within the next two or three years before Britain becomes bankrupt? What steps should really be undertaken to right these wrongs of society? Jack' today may be alright, but tomorrow could well be a different story.....

Moral ethics and moral wrongs can vary according to the community you have been raised in. Some types of crime can be inherent in society and in others institutionalised.

As far as telling on someone is concerned, I hope you don't live in there neighbourhood, undoubtably you will do what you feel is right, Afterwards you could always visit your shrink as Harry has suggested, or maybe your local priest to ascertain his support in the affirmation of your own path of righteousness.

Answer 6

the criminal underworld is a world that unless you are ready and able to take threats should stay away from.... it is called the underworld for they live life in a different manner to the so called Joe public.... they have their own set of laws which if broken get punished....if you are not part of this world then i would stay clear of it yes they may do wrong but they keep it among themselves, in plain terms don't bother them and they won't bother you.... being a grass or a snitch is just not accepted in their world for if you are able to do this this then means you know them and they have trusted you with the information you have, if you grass you break this trust... at the end of the day criminal gangs have been around for hundreds of years and they will continue to be around for the next hundred yrs and their influence goes far beyond what we would expect, money pays, from the man in the local shop to judges....they can't be hurt and that is why people don't grass!!!!!

Answer 7

Considering my family and I have been victims of harassment for 9 months and the Police are only now just beginning to think about maybe getting their finger out, yes, I would think someone around us who has noticed the problem SHOULD report them to ease our pain and provide proof.

If you don't report, you might as well say you condone.

The perpetrators, how ever hard done by they might feel are simply lacking basic social skills as well as understanding of what it is to be a member of society. I say we banish them and send them to a desert island so they can start up a society from scratch and gain the insight they are currently lacking.

A lot of good people came out of this, just look at Australia!

Answer 8

It's a way of trying to make themselves feel better about their own lack of morals.

Tell the court what you know and let the Judge "Hang em High". Or in the case of the UK let them off with a your a very naughty boy don't do that again.

Answer 9

Are you trying to say that it should be ok to grass on someone? because the problem is that everyone is a criminal and we would all be in court for something - because Governments have created so many laws that one can not fart anymore without getting arrested for it so a grass is the enemy of all free men - hope this explains.

Answer 10

I guess that if you grass on someone, or a community.... they object to this "morally" because its a good a get out clause as anything else.
They justify their actions to themselves and are shocked when the rest of society objects and tells them it isnt acceptable. Thats when they shout and stamp their feet.