Evolutionists explain this, can you?

Question

Considering that there are more creatures on this earth than you could possibly count, evolution must have taken place at a remarkable rate considering the earth is only 4 billions years old. With all the creatures that no longer exist because of dying out and life didn't actually start 4 billions years ago according to you but only hundreds of millions of years ago, there must have been changes on an almost daily basis. What happened then? Did evolution just stop? Shouldn't we be seeing these changes before our eyes? Shouldn't chickens have lost their wings by now because they no longer need them, except to feed us I mean? We should be seeing something according to you. Please explain what happened.

Do the math. Hundreds of millions of years by billions of creatures with all that have existed and do exist. Come on now, do the math.

bacteria? that's the best you can do?

All I see is a case of adaptability of creatures.

swbarnes2 You still didn't answer my question. Countless millions of creatures dead and alive/ hundreds of millions of years/ one creature per year/changes on a daily basis.

Answer 1

EXACTALY!

Evolutionists dont think it all out, it is almost laughable

Answer 2

I will try to put this in the simplest terms possible because your lack of respect for science indicates your ignorance of it.

First, the Earth is not just "only" 4 billion years old, it is 4 BILLION years old. That is really a considerable amount of time. It is also entirely possible that that our planet is slightly older, but that is off the topic. If 4 billion seconds = 46296.2963 days, or 126.8392 years, can you imagine how long 4 billion years must be? No, your mind would implode.

Second, evolution by natural selection is not a linear process. One primitive organism does not magically become a more sophisticated organism. There are false starts, deviations, re-connections, branchings, and so on. Some ancient creatures "died out" or became extinct through natural catastrophies or their inability to adapt. Some evolved into one or more different & seperate species and the original species ceased to exist. Some are still around today (sharks, horseshoe crabs, crocodiles, etc.).

Consider this: let's start with two humans (we'll call them Adam & Eve for simplicity's sake) and extrapolate how long it would take for all of their descendants to reach the current population of the world, which is about 6 billion. If we say that each couple has 3 children (2 to replace their parents and one to grow on) and they all had those children at about 20 yrs of age (more or less, depending on when they reached sexual maturity and how spaced apart their kids were), then we can say that by the time Adam & Eve were 60 (that's liberal), they were great-grandparents to 27 great-grankids. That's 3 x 3 x 3, or 3^ 3. So, how many generations to 6 billion? Well, as 3^ 20 is 3.49 x10^ 9 (or over 3 billion) and 3^ 21 is 1.05 x10^ 10 (which is over 10 billion), we can safely say that by the 21st generation, not counting the originators, the human population should have exceeded what it is today. Obviously, that is not the case. As I stated before, there are all kinds of interruptions in evolution. The human race has withstood drastic climate changes, plagues, predators, natural disasters, and our own stupidity. When you throw the possibilty of multiple "Adams" and "Eves", and the possiblity that they began having chidren much earlier than age 20, and that they had more than three children, well... you see how messy it gets. I won't confuse you any further on that point.

As far as your erroneous rationality regarding chickens, I think you would do well to remember that the chickens we recognize today have been specifically bred for our consumption. Breeds of "wild chickens" (think game foul) can certainly still fly, and do in order to escape from hunters. The wings of domesticated chickens have been purposely and carefully reduced by thougthful breeding. It is not, of course, to the chickens' advantage to be bred so that they have breasts so large that it becomes impossible for them to walk (ehem, KFC farms), but that is what our meddling in the genetic makeup of a species gets you.

Finally, if you have managed to read this far, congratulations. Now see how far you can get through your science textbook. Evolution is both confusingly complex and beautifully simple at once, much like religion. However, it should never be confused with religion. Keep in mind the religion requires leaps of faith, but science requires leaps of thought. They are different but not incompatible.

For more info, go to:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/
http://newton.nap.edu/html/creationism/
http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Main_Page

Answer 3

I don't know about that, but if we take a time frame of 50 million years your point is well taken.

How did ALL these things happen!

There are a lot of species!

50 Million year = 80 species

5 Million years = 800 speceis

500,000 years = 8,000 species

50,000 years = 80,000 species

This does deserve some comments by the purist Scientific Darwinists!

There IS supposed to be a LONG gap between species changes

These figures are all predicated on 4 billion years with life starting at that point.

We have to get from ASEXUAL amoba to SEXUAL fish and reptiles

We have to get from cold blooded to warm blooded

There has NOT be a recording of a totally new species in the last 5,000 years, so evolution obviously takes longer

and DOMESTICATING CATS and DOGS and BREEDING THEM is INTELLEGENT DESIGN, not evolution!

How many DISTINCT species are there on Earth, including single cell life, but excluding different "breeds" of birds, for example, except an Ostridge or Chicken can be considered a step in evoltion and not a breed.

They don't fly. But they lay eggs.

Dinosaurs count, by the way, otherwise LEAVE them OUT of Religous discussions!

Teradactals are different from land Dinos.

Meat eaters are different from herabophors.

Predators (eyes close together for 3D vision) are different from eyes on side of head.

Cave men also count or DITTO, leave them OUT of religious discussions!

Ostiopathic Leprichans (well they are HUNCHED over and SMALL) or whatever you call them

And those Homos who are erect, them too!

Different!

Answer 4

Before we answer that question, tell us how a literal biblical interpretation of the Creation events has a better answer? The truth is you cannot, because biblical creationism doesn’t have any explanatory value, because it is not real science. Whenever, Creationists are caught in a mystery as to why there is a contradiction in the Genesis accounts, or how the Genesis account is scientifically impossible, the Creationists merely answer, as if it were tautological, that GOD DID IT! As if that is an explanation!

Secondly, the billions of years in which the earth has been in existence do not require mutations and variations to occur on a daily basis in order to reach the level of speciation that we see today. The only way you can substantiate that claim is if you posit that all life came from one common ancestry. This is not what evolution posits. Furthermore, if you read any of the works from evolutionary scientist Stephen Jay Gould, his theories on punctuated equilibrium go a long way to answer how evolution can take place in the time frame allotted by scientists that life existed on earth, and still produce the diversity we see today.

Instead of resorting to knee jerk attacks, try addressing how evolution works from the writings of those who make a career out of evolution. Don’t put up straw men arguments, and then knock them down, and expect anyone to be impressed.

Answer 5

First of all, it seems you do not understand evolution. Evolution is the natural selection of certain versions of genes according to what is favorable for a population based on its environment. Evolution does not happen to an individual organism. Once something is born, it doesn't evolve - its genes are what they are. Evolution is NOT creatures "morphing" and "twisting" right before your eyes.

Do you realize how many generations many creatures can run thru in hundreds of millions of years? Each generation is a mechanism for evolution. Evolution is a gradual process (however, there are theories to the contrary, as well).

You're not going to see the domestic chicken's wings diminish in size because chickens with larger wings are actually probably going to be artificially selected (this is NOT natural selection, but it's still selection) for the wing meat. It is quite possible that certain breeds of chicken have pronounced wings. However, the wing size does not increase or decrease the quality of meat, so there would most likely not be significant evolution in that direction. Evolution enhances the presence of characteristics which are favorable and decreases the presence of characteristics which are not. "Neutral" characteristics tend to remain in place, discounting genetic drift which is not truly applicable for large populations anyway.

Perhaps you are thinking that since domestic chickens do not fly, they will lose their wings in future generations. The effect of chickens not using their wings would probably be atrophy of those muscles (loss of strength in individuals), but the organs are not going to disappear because they are not a burden.

Answer 6

Ok, I'm not a specialist in evolutionism, but you apparently missed the point! Either you didn't listen in class, or you are so brainwashed by religion that you didn't even listen to what was being said, or you are just plain stupid - which is a real possibility.

Also, why would chicken lose their wings now! I mean, you said it yourself! At one point, they had wings that they used. And now, they have been atrophied (is that English?). One day they might lose them, but maybe they still serve a purpose.

It's like humans' appendicitis: it's useless right now; but it might have been useful in the past. We still have it but have no need for it. So, let me ask you a question: why did God (I'm an atheist, but since you believe in it...) create us with an appendicitis if we don't use it? Just so scientists can think about somethink during the day?

Something I'll never understand is why creationists believe that the earth was created about 5,000 years ago when archeologists have found remains of humans which are way older than that! Did once again God decided that we should argue about how old the earth is?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL!!!

Answer 7

Actually most scientific data shows that the world is around 6 billion years old. A billion years is a very long time, homo sapiens have only been around for about 30,000 years.

Evolution occurs at different rates at varying points in time and in varying environments. In places like the Amazon Rain Forest, the evolutionary rate is much higher.

Furthermore, we have seen evolution happen before our eyes. Near Panama (the little piece of land connecting north and south america) there was a population of shrimp along the coast. After the construction of the Panama Canal, the population was separated. Now biologists are observing a new species of shrimmp on one side, unable to procreate with the shrimp on the other.

Furthermore, evolution has no grand scheme or idea of "progress." It is completely and totally random, for example most people suffer from lower back pain. The same mutations that caused early hominid species to change from arboreal(tree swinging)/quadrupedal(walking on all-fours) to bipedalism (walking upright on two feet) causes lower back pain by the time a person reaches maturity and adulthood. If you are near a college campus, contact the anthropology department, most have casts of early hominids, australopithecines, and primate skulls along with homo sapien skulls. Ask them to line all the skulls up, you can see the evolutionary link between them.

Answer 8

Evolution happens everyday, including today. You read articles about siamese twins, cyclops kitties, two-headed sheep, extra penises and the like - these mutations represent evolution in action.

Usually the mutations are fatal or otherwise detrimental to the animal, but sometimes - more often than we'd think, perhaps - the mutation works out to the animal's advantage. Mutations for better or for worse: God does this!

A billion years is actually a very long time. 1,000,000,000 years. Modern man has only been around a tiny fraction of that time, so we ain't seen nothing yet.

Answer 9

Evolution is a continual process. The various species we have observed evolved in roughly the same time periods (when you are counting millions of years, trust me it's rough) not individually. The same events that made one evolve would have made others evolve as well as the environmental changes would have caused a need on a global scale. On a side note, I don't know about you, but a hundred million years is a really long time to me.

Answer 10

Really, this is a little bit ignorant. These changes have taken place over millions of years, MILLIONS!!!!! It is not like it happened in a few years, our lives are at most usually 100 years so... that is .01% of 1,000,000 so your argument does not work. Something to say that we are evolving is the fact that just a few hundred years ago people were shorter than we are now. Why? Because shorter more compact people could survive easier in the environment. Now we have houses and modern technology to keep us warm.

Answer 11

We see it all the time. Most common evidence right now are the antibiotic-resistant bacteria created from feeding drugs to animals and people. We can even simulate this type of evolution in laboratories. Insects also are evolving quickly to be pesticide-resistant on a yearly basis.
We also see plants adapting to herbicides yearly wherever Roundup is used. Farmers using Roundup-Ready products or Bt-producing corn have to plant a buffer zone of regular crops to slow the evolution/adaptation of insects and wild plants to the pesticides.

Just because you don't understand how it works doesn't mean it isn't happening.