Is there a creationist who knows what "falsifiability" means in science?

Question

If such a creationist exists, please tell me how creationism/Intelligent Design is falsifaible.






If you can't, then you must concede that if it's not falsifiable, then it's not testable, and in turn, is not science.

(or else you simply don't understand the scientific mehtod)

PS: If it's not science, then it doesn't belong in science class.

Answer 1

DA back in da Hizzzouse!

Still on your ID kick eh? Glad to see that. :)

Answer 2

Just a couple side notes...

Jesus was NOT there at the time of creation, obviously

Finding fossils on any layer fully formed doesnt mean anything other than the conditions were right at some time to preserve fossils and at other times they weren't. Trying to use this an an excuse for creationism ignores the fact that there are fossils to begin with. Forest for the trees people!
And as an interesting thought... what if there was a nuclear war or other catastrophe where most if not all humans were destroyed? Now if an intelligent species came around thousands of years later, and found fossil records of our death what would they think? There would be human fossils, right beside thousands of dinosaur fossils. Would they believe we just popped into existance together? Would they wonder about inaccuracies but continue to strive for answers? Would they believe humans and dinosaurs co-existed?

As for the answer to the actual question, I have never met a single creationist who truly believes creationism to be a science per se. And they often think of science as a religion. Go figure.
One is faith based, one is fact (yes fact) based. People can follow whatever makes them happy and gives them comfort. But they are two different things, and as soon as people realize that the easier it will be.
There are holes in both puzzles, but one hides the holes and the other tries to fill them. I will let you guess which is which.
I need lunch :)

Answer 3

Yup, it is the act of proving, through repeatability or solid evidence, that something can happen.

Now, Noah's flood is falsifyible, since there are closed clam fossils on mountaintops. Any clam that dies closed means it died so rapidly, and was buried by such an intense pressure, that the clam corpse had no time for the muscle (can it be called a muscle??) to relax. Clams that die in an open state died naturally and were fossilized in a normal way. There is also enough water to cover the mountaintops if the oceans were made shallower, the giant rifts were to close, and the mountains to shrink to the height they were at about 4500 BC.

The 6 day creation is, at this moment in time, not falsifyible... though I'm certain it will be at the moment when each of us comes face to face with God, and realize it was *His* light that sustained the plants on day 3.

One thing of interest about science... the Primordial Singularity is also nonfalsifyible, since no one can prove, through empirical science, that all matter was some how condensed into the size of an atom, and through no external force (and against Newton's First Law), exploded violently... (or for that matter, how the Singularity got there in the first place)... and though such a concept is nonfalsifiable and merely a hypothesis and conjecture, it is passed off as Scientific Theory, and is promoted almost to the point as if it were, in fact, Scientific Law.

Answer 4

I believe in both.

I believe in a Creator. The FACT that evolution occurs does not rule that out. You only need to let go of the 6 days figure, and it can work together.

Why couldn't a Creator have created life with the ability to adapt to its surroundings as they change, due to other life or climate changes? The fact that the earth is ever changing and not static speaks to me of life, and life speaks soul, and soul speaks divine guidance.

If I am wrong, at least I will have lived my life the best that I can. Certainly no harm in that.

I would not want public schools teaching religion. If parents want their children to learn religion, they need to send them to private schools. Public school science classes are for proveable facts.

Answer 5

The theory of Falsifiabilty was advanced by Karl Popper in the 1930's. I'm not a scientist, nor have I studied this theory in detail. I do know that one question that has risen out of the practice of this theory is "Where does truth fit into all this?"

Creationist believe Truth to be the Word of God. We have been made stewards of his creation - free to study, analyze, try to understand the inner workings of His creation. He even gave us a brain designed to do just that. Many scientist throughout the ages have had no problems reconciling their faith in God to their studies.

To answer your question, you are asking Creationist to fit their knowledge of Truth into a theory that does not accept given truth. Just because Popper theorized that science can't be science if it doesn't pass the "falsibiability" test - doesn't make it true. One can read the scientific studies published on sites like www.answersingenesis.org and www.discovery.org/csc/ by leading scientist and judge for themselves.

Answer 6

That might be the best question I've seen on Y! Answers regarding this debate.



Wow, a lot of answers from creationists, yet none of them even address the question at hand

Answer 7

Just what I expected, creationist liars are simply avoiding the question. They just can't accept that their myths don't hold up to common sense and scientific evidence.

Answer 8

Where the hell have you been? I expect you to be here when I show up. I need to be entertained at the drop of a hat.

Oh, false by the way. or not. I was just happy to see spaghetti

Answer 9

Here is a find scientists who were atheists found.

A few years ago, paleontologists found dinosaur foot prints implanted in stone but which was once mud. There were also distinctive, modern day human foot prints in the rock which was buried under more rock that was the same age as the dinosaur foot prints and were only about 5000 years old.

Answer 10

All you creationist get you information from the same places. Wacko christian pseudo-science web sites and books.