they go thru a rental company to handle all the rent and repairs and such. My friends also rent a house from them. Heres a short backstory. They had some medical issues and were unable to pay rent for a few months. The rental agency said it was fine, that they could pay 300 extra every month and it would be ok. So thats what they were doing, and then all of a sudden they got served with papers saying they were refusing to pay rent. They got all the paperwork saying that they had not missed any payments after the arrangements had been made. Went to court and RGI lied and said they hadn't paid rent in 6 months. The judge wouldn't let my friends talk or show the proof or anything, and got evicted. Do you think the church should fire this company for lying and cheating. The companies slogan is , "Happiness is a positive cashflow." Just seems to me very contradictory for the church to condone this behavior, or am I being irrational?
2006-09-27 05:57:46 · 15 answers · asked by ? 6 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
they did have a signed agreement
2006-09-27 06:02:11 · update #1
1. Ask the owners if they received the monies paid.
2. Were receipts issued or checks PROPERLY endorsed - What is their proof of payments?
3. The company itself or an agent of the company MAY HAVE COMMITTED FRAUD. Take this up with law enforcement, the church, and any governmental "renter's rights" agency.
4 The judge HAS to allow evidence to be presented from BOTH SIDES. This may have been "Judicial Misconduct." This is normally handled by a state agency.
5. Here we're really getting good. IF THEY PRESENTED A DOCUMENT to the judge which can be SHOWN TO BE FALSE, THAT IS FELONY PERJURY. (The "application" they filed with the court may qualify as well.) -- Ask the court clerk for copies of these if they did not receive a copy. The local prosecuting attorney should love to be handed that.
2006-09-27 06:02:44 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
First of all, your friends should file an emergency appeal of this decision. I've never heard of a judge refusing to hear evidence in favor of the defendent. If there was a signed agreement and they can prove they were paying the extra $300. per month, this judge was wrong.
Secondly, yes, I do think your daughter's church needs to know about this. Let the elders and pastor see the evidence and decide what to do. The rental firm doesn't own the house, the church does, so they can permit your friends to stay if they wish.
Peace.
2006-09-27 06:02:15 · answer #2 · answered by Suzanne: YPA 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
One has the right to appeal the ruling to a higher court,at a very little cost. The next Judge will more than likely look at everything they have to present. If they have everything in writing,I would make copies and send them to the gentleman's supervisor.Explain that they are considering legal action against the individual and the firm. Copies should be kept for your file and sent to the church. As for the action the church should take on continuing to do business with the firm isn't something you should waste your energy on right now. It is up to the church .
2006-09-27 06:11:34 · answer #3 · answered by thirsty mind 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If all the facts are as stated then by all means the church should intervene and fire the rental company. Also, the church should step in and offer assistance in some way to the family in need. That is what being a Christian is really all about.
2006-09-27 06:03:52 · answer #4 · answered by Catie 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It seems that the church did a very poor job of investigating this company at the beginning. the slogan alone should have tipped them off that something was wrong. Yes, the church should stop doing business with this company and the church should make amends to the family that was evicted.
2006-09-27 06:03:01 · answer #5 · answered by Preacher 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think basically, your daugher's church is to blame. In the first place, in a case like this, they should have gone to the church, explained the situation and if it was a true church, they would have forgiven a month or two rent at the very least. I would say the church is not very Christianlike in the handling of the situation.
2006-09-27 07:34:01 · answer #6 · answered by stullerrl 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Actually I think the church should sell the property and get out of the world of business. That is just one of the things that grip me about organized religion... My faith has nothing to do with Money. Why does church always have to come down to money? In my mind this cheapens our faith. Even the idea of paid ministry is starting to bug me. Maybe the Mormons have the idea about that point... All I can see the churches doing with Money is giving it away to the needy correctly.. Jim
2006-09-27 06:26:59 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Yeah, they might want to look into a different company. Hopefully you and your friends have also learned, that in these situations you should always get a signed written agreement, just to keep things nice and legal.
best wishes
2006-09-27 06:01:34 · answer #8 · answered by daisyk 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
If the church elders have been told about this and have done nothing, they should be ashamed of themselves. Your friends should appeal the judges decision and get themselves a real estate attorney who will work pro bono.
2006-09-27 06:01:03 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
it truly is hard to trust. have you ever informed the grandparents who attend the church consisting of your toddlers? usually a narrative like yours would get to the pastor and he would placed a end to what is going on. The pastor ought to lose the entire congregation in the experience that they hear about what's being done to you. sturdy human beings everywhere would not approve of this. what variety of church is this?
2016-11-24 22:35:16 · answer #10 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋