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How was God created? I constantly read posts about how the universe couln't be created in the big bang because you can get something from nothing and therefore God must have done it. However using this logic, there must have been something that created God, and if God was created, then what created him? You could keep this argument up forever.
I'll choose Occum's razor. The most logical explaination is big bang followed by evolution.

2006-09-27 04:50:39 · 27 answers · asked by trouthunter 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The simple answer is that reality isn't created, and there is no god. Instead reality is based on mathematics ( necessary logical truths ). Reality only seems created because we see so little of it, and most people don't understand selection effects.

2006-09-27 05:32:33 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

People seem to accept that if there was a God, He would be able to do ANYTHING; and yet, when they are told that God has no origin, their minds fill with unsettling doubts of how this could be true. They say, “Everything has to have a beginning!” The problem here is that many of them have a false conception of God as having human attributes. The question of God having a beginning is invalid. The very powers and qualities of God enable Him to do the impossible, to bend the rules of logic and physics. So if God can create something out of nothing – a concept which contradicts our rational view of how the world functions – is it so hard to believe that God has always existed? He is the only One without a beginning. It sounds unnatural, but it makes sense. It also gives the only logical – or most logical – explanation of how the universe began.

Peace be with you

2006-09-27 18:49:24 · answer #2 · answered by MizuBunshin 3 · 0 0

yeah its a good question and a decent line of thinking in terms of logic, but it's pretty isolated because it doesn't consider all the necessary factors for the answer. here's how it's broken down:

everything that is created must in turn have a creator. everything that has a beginning must have an end. now so far this applies to almost all of phenomenal existence. the basic meta physical answer is that god is beyond the mind. so the line of thinking that would ask ''Doesn't God have something that created Him?" this only applies to a limiting definition of God if He

a) weren't all pervasive

b) wasn't before creation


the next step of reasoning is that we ourselves are using the logic of the creation and not the creator, so the question seems to be in vain if not used the correct tools of answering.

so, i'll try to keep it simple, god is beyond the mind. now, this isn't just a cop out which you can't experience yourself. it is a reality which you can investigate and come about with direct experience but like all the deeper questions of life, are you willing to spend the time, effort and sacrifice in order to realize the truth??? for god to be beyond the mind which is why he has no creation, because that let's say 'substratum' existence is what really is.

let's go even deeper. what is the true nature of existence and creation? how can you know that this isn't a dream. the examples for this analogy are found in the wonderful matrix trilogy.

so the evidence for this is available right now. but there are numerous obstructions involved if you're solely relying on the five senses of perception and cognition.

meditation on the self is the answer. "how was god created'' came from the concept of your mind which related to the trace roots of the substratum existence , the ''dreamer of the dream"

wake up, question who you are, what is it that defines your being and how everything is connected, these are the hints to ''who created god"

so if this isn't all to clear, it's because your question is mostly rhetorical under the surface, you already know the answer, but the illusion of the dream relies on you pretending you don't know. good luck my friend. peace

2006-09-27 05:06:55 · answer #3 · answered by Tyrone 2 · 0 0

First, you DO realize that Occam's razor was thought up by William of Ockham a friar, aka believer in God, right? Of course Occam's razor is defined as follows "that the explanation of any phenomenon should make as few assumptions as possible, eliminating, or "shaving off," those that make no difference in the observable predictions of the explanatory hypothesis or theory. In short, when given two equally valid explanations for a phenomenon, one should embrace the less complicated formulation"

Well well well! Look at this section right here."as few assumptions as possible." Well.. lets look at evolution for a moment shall we? Evolution has never been shown to be true (or false for that matter, yes I'm fair on that) and mealy believing in evolution requires a lot of faith with a whole lot of assumptions. The fossil record only works how it does because of the assumption of evolution. There are other explanations that could be just as valid. Also, evolution is an educated GUESS, by Darwin based on observation. While observation is a valid part of the sciencetific process, he was never able to finish it.

Evolution also involves so much chance that it creates more complexity. So when you compare the idea that One God made everything compared to BILLIONS of years of chance and natural selection and genetic drift and flow, and cosmic radiation, which one comes down to being more simple? I think the answer is obvious.

(My name is link_althor on yahoo, and I'm always game for a discussion such as this)

2006-09-27 05:10:20 · answer #4 · answered by link_althor 2 · 0 0

That is a good question. If God made everything, then who made God right? ...But this is why there is a thing called 'faith". It means believing in something without questioning the hows and whys. I think you cannot come up with a logical answer for that question. It depends on what you most believe in. If you are more scientific, then by all means, the big bang theory is a good explanation. But if you are more religious, then belief in God is the answer. However which way you look at it, we can never ever marry science and religion.

2006-09-27 04:55:26 · answer #5 · answered by curiousitywillnotkillcat 2 · 1 0

I think that you can throw the big bang idea in the trash. I am a firm bible beliver. God is the first and the last, therfore he just is. He didn't have to be created. I look at it like like this: God is and artis and we are his masterpices. No one ask where does the arits come from or how he became so great. It's just in him. In the book of revelation it speaks of a scroll with seven seals. their are certain things that are going th happen when each seal is broken. Then after the lst seal is broken the all the misteries of the world will be revieled. So I encoureg you to live a life that is pleasing unto God that you might know the truth about all things in the end. Or as I like to think of it as a new begining.

2006-09-27 05:09:36 · answer #6 · answered by Mrs. 305 1 · 0 1

I completely agree with you. At least there is science and actual data to support the theories of evolution and the "big bang." As for God, I've seen no such documented evidence....you can't count the Bible. It's a book, written by other people about God. My Mom always told me that the Bible was probably written for some form of governing, or scare tactic, to make people believe that their actions chose their outcome in eternity.
I find it hard to believe in something I cannot see. I can see fossils, and I believe in carbon dating, so, I guess my choice was made for me a long while back.

2006-09-27 04:56:26 · answer #7 · answered by outlandsishlady 3 · 1 0

I have said the same things many times in Yahoo Answers, so I totally agree with you. We have someone creating God; someone creating the creator of God; someone creating the creator of the creator of God...ad infinitum. Wiliam of Occam (or Ockham)'s razor is a great tool in Logic, but creationists cannot comprehend Logic. They wouldn't be creationists if they did know science and logic well. (Some might pretend to believe such stuff to con money from suckers, of course.)

2006-09-27 05:01:07 · answer #8 · answered by miyuki & kyojin 7 · 0 0

interior the commencing up = Time began - God starts time God = God exists

2016-10-01 10:25:42 · answer #9 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

The creation of the Subjective God, along the lines as refererred to in the religions, was the result of the workings of the main law of the Universe, according to which positive enegy is stronger than negative energy and negative energy is not allowed to win.

The existence of this law alone is ultimately responsible for the creation of the Universe. Hence it is called the "Objective God", or the creator.

2006-09-27 07:10:52 · answer #10 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

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