Psalm 82 acknowledges that there are other deities with whom the Lord works & over whom He presides & rules?

Question

Psalm 82
1[[A Psalm of Asaph.]] God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
2How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4Deliver the poor and needy: rid [them] out of the hand of the wicked.
5They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6I have said, Ye [are] gods; and all of you [are] children of the most High.
7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
8Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations. (KJV)

Does Psalm 82 acknowledge that there are other deities with whom the Lord works and over whom He presides and rules?

Answer 1

This interpretation is speaking of angels and demons.

Answer 2

If the interpretation meant "angels and demons" then it would have said "angels and demons" It specifies "gods" and I think the question is entire legitimate.

The Ten Commandements also acknowledges that there are other gods--I am the Lord THY God (ie not the only one, just yours), thou shalt have no other gods before me.

God is not claiming to be the only god, it does not say that other gods are false or non-existent. God is saying that if the Jews expect to stay as His chosen people, then they'd better give him the respect he deserves (btw, you'll notice that God doesn't even prohibit the Jews from worshiping other gods--just so long as they recognize Him as the most important of them)

Answer 3

When God says that you shall have no other Gods before me he was referring to the idols that were worshiped in the Old Testament. At this point in time anything that you deify is a God, money, people, sex, power,etc... God is over those and he will not accept that train of thought. We are to worship him only and have no other Gods before him. David was crying out to God in the Psalms mostly about his own persecutions by others who were challenging or threantening his Kingship. He expected God to just wipe out his enemies. David was a very conflicted man, if you read all the Psalms from beginning to end he goes back and forth between praise, worship, thanks giving, peace, fear, and safety. Don't take out of context what David was saying to the Lord.

Answer 4

First recognize that it is Jehovah who are calling these human judges, gods. They are not false gods, They are not gods in combination nor are they in competition with Jehovah.

The word god by definition can mean mighty one.

Were the judges of Israel mighty? yes, they had the power of life and death over Jehovah's people.

They were to represent Jehovah in their judgment and execute His laws and judgments.

Jesus used these human judges (gods) to clarify his role in Jehovah's arrangement (John 10:34,35)

Jesus too has been given power and authority over humans. Jesus too has been given the role of judge, having life and death in his hands.

It is because of Jesus words at John 10:34, 35, that we know that John 1:1 is correctly translated and the Word was a god.

When correcting the misunderstanding of the Jews at John 10:31, Jesus didn't quote from Ps 83:18, (Most High), he quoted Ps 82:6, humans who are called gods, not Are Gods.

I wouldn't use the word deities in describing these human judges because they have no power unto themselves, only what Jehovah has given them.

Answer 5

Equation of One God without partners



Father = 1.0 Son = 1.0 Holy Spirit =1.0
{total} = 3.0


Even if we use the Christian mathematical equation of "trinity", it does not add up.


The Christian's technique of addition is that {Father}& {Son} & {Holy Spirit} are all "equal" and therefore 1.0


Yet the Bible gives us a different equation for the numerical value of Jesus.


Jesus admits "..my Father is greater than I", {John 14:28} This subtracts a Decimal {-0.1}


"I can of mine own self do nothing...," {John 5:30} This subtracts another decimal {-0.1}


At this point, Jesus in no longer a complete 1.0 but now a {0.8}





Now the list of figures are {Father} =1.0 {Jesus} = 0.8 and {Holy Spirit} = 1.0, Bringing the Total to {2.8}


Reading and depending on the Bible, there is a "quantity" that is overlooked by Christians which has clear value in this equation.


Jesus was baptized because He had to fulfill the legal requirements for entering into the priesthood like Melchizedek (Psalm 110:4; Heb. 5:8-10;6:20)


Melchizedek has no beginning and no end, no Mother and no Father {Hebrew 7:3}, now that is what I call an immaculate conception!


First, Jesus sought to be a High Priest like Melchizedek.


Second, Melchizedek had a more Miraculous birth, without a "mother" or "father", with no beginning or end, although Melchizedek clearly worshiped 1 God so we will give Melchizedek a value of {0.9}


Now the total according to the Bible and Christian belief is


{Father} =1.0 {Jesus} = 0.8 {Holy Spirit} = 1.0 and {Melchizedek} = 0.9


Bringing the Total to {3.7}


There are more variables which we can add for example Genesis 32:24-30 Jacob wrestles with God. God can not win against Jacob.


This information would make Jacob a {1.1} the Father would remains at {1.0} since through out the Bible, Isaiah 43:10-11,Deuteronomy 4:39, Isaiah 45:18, Isaiah44:6, Isaiah45:6, Isaiah 45:22, Exodus 20:3, Exodus 34:14, the Bible "Clearly" States that God is {1.0}


"For there is One God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus", (I Timothy 2:5).





Of course I am not that good in math, there is a form of advanced mathematics in Christianity that I just can't comprehend, that is the "changing variables" Which means, at one point in the Bible, God is given a quantity and then later on that quantity is either subtracted from or added to or in other words, "fluctuating values".


For example:


God is given the value and quantity of "Never sleeping",


(Psalm 121:4): "Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep." And Yet according to trinity then Jesus is supposed to have this "Equal" power but "Jesus sleeps"


How can Jesus be 100% Equal if he worshipped God as any other mortal (Luke 5:16):


"And he withdrew himself into the wilderness, and prayed."


Jesus was tempted by Satan for forty days (Luke 4:1-13) but in James 1:13 is said: "...for God cannot be tempted with evil.."


I am confused, If the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are "Equal", why doesn't the Bible "consistently" say they are equal instead of giving them and "others" changing values.


I think I will refer to the "Teachers Edition" to get the answers to this complicated question "


"O people of the book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was [no more or less than] a messenger of Allah, and His word, which he bestowed upon Mary, and a spirit preceding from Him: so believe in Allah and his messengers.


Say not "Three": desist!, it is better for you, for Allah is one God, Glory be to Him, Far exalted is He above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and the earth. And enough is Allah as a disposer of affairs." Qur'an (4):171.


Now it all makes sense, the Qur'an clarified what the Bible is saying. I would be going against the Bible itself if I had "unsupported inconsistent faith in trinity" because the Bible says: "For God is not the Author of confusion, but of peace.." (I Corinthians 14:33).

Answer 6

the passage is talking about angelic powers or more likely the earthly kings and rulers

Answer 7

Sara that is not an answer or question

Jon h hit the nail on the head

Answer 8

There are many that claims to be God.

Ezekiel 28

1The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,

2Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

3Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee:

4With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:

5By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:

6Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God;

7Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.

8They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas.

9Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee.

10Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.

11Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Isaiah 14:

12How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

For every nations there are princes of unseen world (princes of darkness / evil/ satanic)

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.


Daniel 10:

11And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.

12Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.

13But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

14Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.