Does the Pope consider himself like Jesus?

Question

What the bible verses to support this behavior.

Being able to forgive sins ect...

Changing the sabbath

Answer 1

No, the Pope considers himself to be like Simon Peter.

+ Pope +

Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." (Matthew 16:17-19)

The Catholic Church believes the Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the "rock" of his Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.

Pope Benedict XVI is the direct successor of Peter.

+ Forgiveness of Sins +

The Catholic Church believes that "Only God forgives sin."

When a penitent person asks God for forgiveness, his (or her) sins are immediately forgiven.

Catholics also believe that when someone sins they not only hurt their relationship with God, they also injure the entire church, the body of Christ.

The Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation with a priest ordained in the name Jesus Christ not only reconciles the sinner to God but with the entire church, including you and me.

James 5:16 - Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The fervent prayer of a righteous person is very powerful.

Acts 19:18 - Many of those who had become believers came forward and openly acknowledged their former practices.

Matthew 3:5-6 - At that time Jerusalem, all Judea, and the whole region around the Jordan were going out to him (John the Baptist) and were being baptized by him in the Jordan River as they acknowledged their sins.

Mark 1:5 - People of the whole Judean countryside and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem were going out to him (John the Baptist) and were being baptized by him in the Jordan River as they acknowledged their sins.

1 Timothy 6:12 - Compete well for the faith. Lay hold of eternal life, to which you were called when you made the noble confession in the presence of many witnesses.

1 John 1:9 - If we acknowledge our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from every wrongdoing.

+ Church on Sundays +

Christians believe that Jesus fulfilled the Law of Moses. Therefore Christians are not held to the ceremonial parts of the Mosaic Law concerning of dietary purity and temple worship.

Christians are held to the moral law of God, some of which is expressed in the Ten Commandments.

The first Christians were Jews. They went to temple or synagogue on the Sabbath (Saturday) with fellow Jews.

Then they gathered on the first day of the week, the day on which Jesus rose from the dead (Sunday), with fellow Christians to tell stories of Jesus and share Eucharist. See Acts 20:7.

Later Gentiles joined Christianity. The Apostles, filled with the Holy Spirit, decided that the Gentiles did not have to covert to Judaism. Therefore, they only attended on Sundays and did not have to abide by Jewish dietary laws.

Christians believe that Jesus' Resurrection has changed the Lord's Day to Sunday.

This has been the practice ever since.

+ Sources of Doctrine +

The Catholic Church does not use Holy Scripture as the only basis of doctrine. It could not. The early Catholic church existed before and during the time that the New Testament was written (by Catholics).

There were hundreds of Christian writings during the first and second centuries. Which New Testament writings would become official was not fully decided until about 400 AD.

Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit was guiding the early church (and is guiding the church today) to make the correct choices about things like:
+ The Holy Trinity (which is also only hinted at in the Bible)
+ Going to church on Sunday instead of Saturday (which is actually directly against one of the Ten Commandments)
+ The Communion of Saints
+ Which writings include in the New Testament?

Things that are even more modern like
+ Slavery is bad. Slavery is never declared evil in the Bible. This was one of the justifications for slavery in the Confederate States.
+ Democracy is good. The Bible states that either God should be the leader of the nation like Israel before the kings or kings should be the leader, "Give to Caesar that which is Caesar's." This was talked about a lot during the American Revolution.

This second source of doctrine is called Holy Tradition.

+ With love in Christ.

Answer 2

No, he does not.

Your knowledge of the Catholic faith is extremely lacking. The Bishop of Rome, nor any other Priests believe they are the same as Christ, nor do they forgive sin. Only God forgives sin.

When a priest hears confession, it is done 'in persona Christi'....meaning that anything said in confession is said to Christ through the priest, as an instument or vessel, and absolution is from Christ, again through the priest, but not directly from the priest himself.

The priest acts only as a conduit but is not the one that actually forgives sin. This is why 'true' Apostolic Succession is necessary when Holy Orders are bestowed on validly ordained priests. See anabasisx's answer just a few below to see the scriptural basis for this.


For your long list of Catholic questions why not just go buy a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and learn what the Church REALLY believes and teaches. I promise you will be amazed at what you see. Everything the Church does has Biblical basis.

Answer 3

The church may at any time in her 2 thousand 3 hundred and sixty 5 days heritage have considered one of those truth to be heretical. it style of feels that the merely web pages which have the citation are protestant ones... no longer catholic ones. the authentic education of the church is to that end CCC 936 The Lord made St. Peter the seen starting place of his Church. He entrusted the keys of the Church to him. The bishop of the Church of Rome, successor to St. Peter, is "head of the school of bishops, the Vicar of Christ and Pastor of the accepted Church on earth" Vicar - one serving instead or agent; truly : an administrative deputy (merriam-webster) for this reason the pope is at maximum serving christ instead till his second coming. Or because the church places it, the pope is the seen head of the church, yet he's likewise below the invisible head the Lord Jesus Christ, invisible because he's in Heaven.

Answer 4

The Pope does not consider himself to be Jesus. Infallibility occures when all of the cardinal of Bishops gather together, and make a declairation together. The Pope, Bishops, and Priests can grant forgivness in Christ's name.

Forgivness of sins: "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained"

After his Resurrection, Christ sent his apostles "so that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be preached in his name to all nations." < Lk 24:47 > The apostles and their successors carry out this "ministry of reconciliation," not only by announcing to men God's forgiveness merited for us by Christ, and calling them to conversion and faith; but also by communicating to them the forgiveness of sins in Baptism, and reconciling them with God and with the Church through the power of the keys, received from Christ. < 2 Cor 5:18>

Answer 5

No the pope shouldn't consider himself like Jesus. I don't know if the pope does as I don't know him personally. The Pope doesn't forgive sins he only hears confessions as do priests, bishops and cardinals. Forgiving sins is God's domain. A priest or whomever hears a confession can assign us a penance to do to show that we are sorry for whatever sin we have committed. The pope is the "Earthly" head of the church and is supposed to spread the word of God to his people.

Answer 6

All Christians are pretty much supposed to be like Jesus. The pope is just being a good Christian in that regard.

As far as forgiving sins:

John 20:21 - before He grants them the authority to forgive sins, Jesus says to the apostles, "as the Father sent me, so I send you." As Christ was sent by the Father to forgive sins, so Christ sends the apostles and their successors forgive sins.

John 20:22 - the Lord "breathes" on the apostles, and then gives them the power to forgive and retain sins. The only other moment in Scripture where God breathes on man is in Gen. 2:7, when the Lord "breathes" divine life into man. When this happens, a significant transformation takes place.

John 20:23 - Jesus says, "If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven. If you retain the sins of any, they are retained." In order for the apostles to exercise this gift of forgiving sins, the penitents must orally confess their sins to them because the apostles are not mind readers. The text makes this very clear.

Matt. 9:8 - this verse shows that God has given the authority to forgive sins to "men." Hence, those Protestants who acknowledge that the apostles had the authority to forgive sins (which this verse demonstrates) must prove that this gift ended with the apostles. Otherwise, the apostles' successors still possess this gift. Where in Scripture is the gift of authority to forgive sins taken away from the apostles or their successors?

Matt. 9:6; Mark 2:10 - Christ forgave sins as a man (not God) to convince us that the "Son of man" has authority to forgive sins on earth.

Luke 5:24 - Luke also points out that Jesus' authority to forgive sins is as a man, not God. The Gospel writers record this to convince us that God has given this authority to men. This authority has been transferred from Christ to the apostles and their successors.

Matt. 18:18 - the apostles are given authority to bind and loose. The authority to bind and loose includes administering and removing the temporal penalties due to sin. The Jews understood this since the birth of the Church.

John 20:22-23; Matt. 18:18 - the power to remit/retain sin is also the power to remit/retain punishment due to sin. If Christ's ministers can forgive the eternal penalty of sin, they can certainly remit the temporal penalty of sin (which is called an "indulgence").

2 Cor. 2:10 - Paul forgives in the presence of Christ (some translations refer to the presences of Christ as "in persona Christi"). Some say that this may also be a reference to sins.

2 Cor. 5:18 - the ministry of reconciliation was given to the ambassadors of the Church. This ministry of reconciliation refers to the sacrament of reconciliation, also called the sacrament of confession or penance.

James 5:15-16 - in verse 15 we see that sins are forgiven by the priests in the sacrament of the sick. This is another example of man's authority to forgive sins on earth. Then in verse 16, James says “Therefore, confess our sins to one another,” in reference to the men referred to in verse 15, the priests of the Church.

1 Tim. 2:5 - Christ is the only mediator, but He was free to decide how His mediation would be applied to us. The Lord chose to use priests of God to carry out His work of forgiveness.

Lev. 5:4-6; 19:21-22 - even under the Old Covenant, God used priests to forgive and atone for the sins of others.

Be sure to check out scripturecatholic.com for more Bible verses to support the primacy of Peter as well as Apostolic Succession.

Answer 7

The Pope considers himself to be like God because:
1. people confess their sins to him
2. he has changed God's Law (Dan.7:25)
3. he has casted all God's truth to the ground (Dan.8:12)

The Anti-Christ is the "lawless one"; the "man of sin" which "opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped..." 2Thess.2:3-4
http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/tw-bk.cgi?category=Booklets1&item=1104415262

DANIEL 7:25 tells us "HE SHALL SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST THE MOST HIGH, AND SHALL WEAR OUT THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH, AND THINK TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS..."
{see also Dan.7:8; 8:23-25; Rev.13:1}

ROM.1:25 = "WHO CHANGED THE TRUTH OF GOD INTO A LIE, AND WORSHIPPED AND SERVED THE CREATURE MORE THAN THE CREATOR, WHO IS BLESSED FOR EVER. AMEN."

What part of the law did the Papacy change?
(General Catholic Catechism)
http://family.webshots.com/photo/1339749760049373547pfqiuM
http://www.angelfire.com/sc/YJesusCame/page4.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

In the General Catholic Catechism; they have tooken out the second commandment{Exodus 20:4}. The fourth commandment about the Sabbath{Exodus 20:8-11} is the third where they changed it from Saturday to Sunday as the time; they say "midnight to midnight" when the Bible says in Genesis 1:5,8,13,19,23,31 and Lev.23:32 "evening to evening". And they put covet for the {Exodus 20:16}9th and 10th Commandment.
See 195 in this site:
http://www.truecatholic.org/baltp2.htm
See Questions on the law and commandments in this site:
http://www.oldcatholic.org/catechism/part3.html

Evidence: (Catholics know when the seventh day is)
"1. Is Saturday the 7th day occording to the Bible & the 10 Commandments.
"I answer yes.
"2. Is Sunday the first day of the week & did the Church change the 7th day--Saturday---for Sunday, the 1st. day:
"I answer yes.
"3. Did Christ change the day
"I anser no! Faithfully yours,
"J. Card. Gibbons"
--Gibbon's Autograph letter.
"Ques.--Which is the Sabbath day?
"Ans.--Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Ques.--Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Ans.--We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."--Peter Geiermann, The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1946 ed.), p.50. Geiermann received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius x on his labors, Jan.25,1910.
Bible Readings pg.194.

"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act...And the act is a Mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." ---H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons.

"The Catholic Church...by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."--The Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
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Rev.13:18 "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
It tells you exactly who the beast is: from the clues in the Bible.
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/tw-bk.cgi?category=Booklets1&item=1104414543

(REV.13:18) on the Pope's Crown (tiara) are these letters: VICARIUS FILII DEI; what do they signify?

OUR SUNDAY VISITOR, (CATHOLIC WEEKLY) BUREAU OF INFORMATION," HUNTINGTON, IND., APRIL 18, 1915.

ROMAN NUMERALS FOR THESE LETTERS ARE: V=5; I=1; C=100; U=5; D=500; L=50 = THEY ADD UP TO 666.

http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/vicarius-filii-dei-documentation.htm
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Answer 8

The Popes consider themselves in the role of Peter, the fisher of men.

Answer 9

The bible does not consider himself Jesus, he is just a most honorable part of clergy, because it takes a lot of time and dedication to become a Pope.

Answer 10

No!

But he considers himself God, and Jesus is supposed to be God.

Imagine God in a human form who must eat and go to the toilet and who even has a penis like every man! But he has chosen to live an unnatural life while he thinks he is super-natural.

Doesn't he remind you of the trinity? being a mystery that cant make sense while Christians come on Answers to try to make sense of it?

AMEN!