million over 5 years? Did you see that she is trying to put this in the border fence bill?
This isn't so much 'amnesty for those here' because as agriculture will be the first to say, once they are 'here' they go to more stable jobs. This is to draw new people who after 3 years of work would get residency, to themselves move on to other jobs. Our schools and services are part of their employment package - since the agriculture jobs are only seasonal and don't in themselves require more than seasonal workers.
I think they should make seasonal work easier but NOT increase future immitration at least until we can manage the flow of illegal immigration. This is exactly what I was concerned about months ago, that they would give 'some' border security then open a future immigration program, while those illegally here are still..... illegally here.
This doesn't solve any existing immigration problems, it just causes a worse problem in my opinion.
What do you think?
2006-09-26
08:32:39
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http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/15602834.htm?source=rss
2006-09-26
08:36:03 ·
update #1
"The Senate may vote on the fence this week, and Feinstein and Craig urged Majority Leader Bill Frist in a letter Friday to allow a vote on the jobs measure as an amendment."
2006-09-26
08:38:19 ·
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Sashie - agribusiness is big business in CA, and this is why Arnold is turning girly-man on the issue as well.
It is BOTH big business and VERY close to Sacramento, where the capital is.
2006-09-26
08:52:15 ·
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Tom SJ, I'd be happy to undo those provisions as well. Wal-Mart's gain is not MY gain and is certainly not helping my children with substandard education in overcrowded underfunded ESL predominant schools.
2006-09-26
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Yes! I heard her speech on C Span some time ago ... apparently her thought was that those who are here now working in other jobs should have to "go back" to agriculture and work 150 days in 2 years ... that is 75 days a year ... and after these two years, they would get a green card ... she did say 2 years, maybe that has been changed to 3? In any case, she was in favor of capping the total number to 1.5 million nationwide ... but didn't specify if that was per year, or in total ...
As you say, that will of course increase future immigration, since after 2 years, those people who would then qualify for green cards would post haste leave the ag sector ... and in will come the next wave of ag workers, to work 75 days a year for 2 years ....
I don't get it .. sounds to me she and the Republican representative from Idaho who co sponsored the bill must've taken underhands from the big ag business ... because it makes no sense to me at all ...
2006-09-26 08:41:46
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answered by Sashie 6
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with the aid of fact meaning legally controlled non everlasting immigation, inexpensive hard paintings and the undeniable fact that those workers gets sent back to Mexico on the tip of the agreed term. It shows goodwill in direction of fixing a undertaking that could be a protracted time previous, and has reached a element the place you're able to do something. Immigrants are necessary to take over those jobs that human beings do no longer want. that could be a actuality. you decide on them and you do no longer. Politicians could try this with the aid of fact they skipped over the undertaking for an exceedingly long term, they are finding for the middle floor, a answer which will shop the two international places and governments happy. perhaps that works for Mexico and the u . s ., yet no longer all immigrants are Mexican, there are lots of alternative international places, will u . s . additionally paintings on customer-worker courses with them? This application might help weed out the ordinary, hardworking Mexicans from the criminals. Hop this enables.
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answered by gaidos 4
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Just to put another perspective on the immigration problem.
When the North American Free Trade Agreement was signed in 1994 between Canada, Mexico and the US, it was supposed to remove most trade & investment barriers between thel 3 countries.
Mexico was supposed to significantly benefit from new US investments in factories & farms, which would export their products to the US. Instead, Mexico has lost factories and farms as the US has opened the door to imports from many other countries, such as Chile, Argentina, Costa Rica, and most of all, China.
To a great extent, the loss of good-paying factory jobs in Mexico has been China's gain. Quite frankly, Mexican workers cost too much compared to Chinese workers. Since California provides nearly 1/2 of the US agricultural output of vegetables, fruits and nuts ($43 billion in annual agricultural production), a great many of the unemployed Mexican workers went north for some kind of jobs. Not only agricultural jobs, but also service jobs in hotels, cleaning and construction services.
So the next time people complain about illegal immigration, think about all the cheap goods the US buys from China at Wal-Mart, Target, K-mart, Sears and hundreds of other stores. And think about the hotels people stay at on vacation - how many native born Americans are doing the maid service? Or the cooking at the low-cost restaurants? What about the janitors who clean office buildings each night - emptying trash, vaccuming carpets or cleaning the toilets? And how about people who hire a lawn and garden service, replace a fence, do an inexpensive roofing job, or other labor-intensive construction jobs? Not very many Americans are breaking their backs to do those jobs. In fact, too many people don't want to pay the higher prices asked by legitimate contractors which hire only Americans or documented workers.
The ideas to build a 2000 mile fence between Mexico and the US, or round-up-and-deport all the illegals are tough-sounding solutions.
I can't wait for the words to match the actions. Please tell me when American citizens will roll up their sleeves and start doing hard, menial jobs currently done by "the illegals." And stop buying billions of dollars of cheap goods made in China.
2006-09-26 09:38:26
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answered by Tom-SJ 6
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Just another smoke screen. This will only increase the flow of illegals as we seen Mexico is all for exporting anything that looks like it will cost them money on over to the U.S.A. for us to pick up the tab and increase money going back.
2006-09-26 08:44:46
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answered by Zoe 4
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I think Feinstein took her crazy pills before coming up with that nonsense. It doesn't make any sense to me how it's supposed to help a thing. I only see more problems being created until they can fix the situation that we're in now.
2006-09-26 08:43:02
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answered by Kris B 5
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Yes there's actually a huge debate over it on our website, everyone thinks it's a "great resolution to a grey-area problem." Unfortunately illegal immigration is a COMPLETE black-and-white problem, there are no gray areas, or everyone would be happy.
2006-09-26 09:09:48
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answered by getmycountryback 2
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man i don't put no trust in these idiots up in congress doing the right thing on the illegal immigration bill .we the peoples will just have to vote some idiots out of congress for not hearing our plea on this issue . we just can't trust our own elected official
2006-09-26 08:43:10
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answered by ? 6
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Dianne Feinstien is just another example of what graduates from the USC Berkeley campus.
2006-09-26 08:36:30
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answered by senior citizen 5
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She is willing to sell out her country for 30 pieces of silver.
May she hang her head in eternal shame.
God have mercy on her blackened soul.
2006-09-26 08:43:18
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answered by Kate 2
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