Since when did being American become a requirement for getting basic human rights like education and health care? Yet Americans are upset because their tax money helps illegal immigrants survive. SHAME ON YOU!
And you probably all think of yourselves a good Christians (I didn't know Jesus distinguihed between illegal/legal status) Why do you get to judge, then?
2006-09-26 06:56:36 · 42 answers · asked by retorik75 5 in Politics & Government ➔ Immigration
Republicans want to deny Education, because an educated person is a threat for them. It is easier for them to manipulate and oppress ignorants than educated immigrants
2006-09-26 07:52:48 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
Let me tell you something! I pay taxes and I have enough trouble affording quality health care and education for my own family let alone some greaseball sneaking into this country so that we have to take care of them and/or their families. If Mexicans want to come here they must do it legally, and then pay into the system like the rest of us. Education is not a right it is a privelege, as well as health care in this country. There are millions of Americans that don't have health care coverage. Why should we give it to immigrants? If our gov't had the money I would hope they'd give affordable health care to Americans before they let illegals have it. Our gov't needs to crack down seriously on benefits to illegals that we have to pay for. It's not fair to us who have jobs, work hard, and raise our families. Shame on you for thinking we should give immigrants these benefits before ourselves. And get off the jesus thing cuz it's not going to help you here! Amen!
2006-09-26 07:49:35 · answer #2 · answered by sicilia 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
OK first of all we don't think being American is a requirement to receive basic human rights. I do require an American citizen be the one who receives the benefits of MY tax dollars. If you want to be here to better yourself fine, just do it the right way. If you can't do it the right way than don't bother coming. Because just like they need help, so do actual citizens. And in every other country in the world you have to be a citizen or have to have the proper papers to receive their benefits, so why is it you people judge us so harshly. I love to see you go to another country and demand for them to pay for your medical and education, then tell them that you don't even have the papers to be here but your going to demand this of them anyway. It will not happen So stop acting like we are the evil people of the world, we just want you to do it right.
As far as Jesus not knowing about status you obviously have never read your whole bible cause it talks about "aliens" coming into Jerusalem. Get a clue.
2006-09-26 07:34:47 · answer #3 · answered by Angela H 2 · 3⤊ 0⤋
So many protesters have based their arguments on how
this land is made up of immigrants. Ernie Lujan for one,suggests we should
tear down the Statue of Liberty because the people now in question aren't
being treated the same as those who passed through Ellis Island and other
ports of entry.
Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to
people like Mr. Lujan why today's American is not willing to
accept this new kind of immigrant any longer.
Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of
Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship
and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some
would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground. They made
a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad
times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new American
households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new
home.
They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new
life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture. Nothing was
handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them.
All they had were the skills and craftsmanship they had brought
with them to trade for a future of prosperity.
Most of their children came of age when World War II broke
out. My father fought along side men whose parents had come
straight over from Germany , Italy , France and Japan . None of
these 1st generation Americans ever gave any thought about what country their
parents had come from.
They were Americans fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor
of Japan . They were defending the United States of America as one people.
When we liberated France , no one in those villages were looking for the
French-American or the German American or the Irish American. The people of
France saw only Americans.
And we carried one flag that represented one country. Not one of those
immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and
waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their
parents who sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what
it meant to be an American. They stirred the melting pot into one red, white
and blue bowl.
And here we are in 2006 with a new kind of immigrant who
wants the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by
playing with a different set of rules, one that includes the
entitlement card and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother
country. I'm sorry, that's not what being an American is all about
I believe that the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the early 1900s
deserve better than that for all the toil, hard work and sacrifice in raising
future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those
legally searching for a better life.
I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an
example by those waving foreign country flags.
And for that suggestion about taking down the Statue of
Liberty, it happens to mean a lot to the citizens who are
voting on the immigration bill. I wouldn't start talking about
dismantling the United States just yet.
2006-09-26 08:27:10 · answer #4 · answered by WOLFGANG 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No , Not shame on me, but shame on you !!! Anytime illegal emmigrants come to any country and that also means other then America, there is no way you can get all the luxuries, that you would like. Why is it that you think people need to fully depend on our Government to help them survive ? When my Ancestors came here from Norway, they had to find and do for themselves. Luck was there were relatives who had came before , so they had a PLAN and a destination, to go to. My Great-Grandparents, had to travel South from Canada once they got off the old ship and they kept going South until they found a suitable place. It was in a valley with a rock ledge overhang. There they lived with their six children. Put logs around the rock ledge to protect them from the rain and wind. They hunted for meat and did all they could to survive off the land. The illegal emmigrants nowdays, depend on our people and agencys to help them. Well my Ancestors were not illegal. Don't judge us in this Great Country. We are Christians and this America is built on a Christian foundation. Jesus Loves all of Us. But he too put us on this Earth to be self suficient. He gave us the ability to do for ourselves. It is wonderful to help others and tremedous help , has been given to the needy. But there is a difference, in the country, between Legal and Illegal. The word is LEGAL, not ILLEGAL !!!! We are not evil, we are good and have helped many.
2006-09-26 07:24:22 · answer #5 · answered by Norskeyenta 6 · 4⤊ 0⤋
The problem is... if the illegals don't contribute their fair share of taxes (city, county, state, and federal) that fund the schools, yet have 2-3-4+ children in school.... who pays for those kids? Where does the money come from to educate the children of people who don't, through deductions to their paychecks in the form of taxes, financial support the very school school district they demand their children be allowed to attend? If there are, for example, an additional 200 children in school whose parents (because they don't have jobs and/or work for under-the-table cash) aren't paying into the system, how will the school district survive? Who comes up with the extra money needed to educate those 200 kids with more classrooms, books, teachers (bilingual teachers, too!), supplies...?
Now, this has nothing to do with being a Christian or racist or any of that garbage. This is a very logical, rational question as it pertains to the survival of the school district. If the illegals do not contribute, yet their kids take the benefit, eventually, the school will become bankrupt. It's just common business sense.
The same scenario applies to the health care system, which is why 1 out of 6 ER's in California have closed.
So, rather than judge other people, as you're doing now, please offer a solution to the pending crisis. Thanks.
2006-09-26 07:05:58 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 2⤋
First of all being a Christian has nothing to do with it. Shame on you for asking such a question. Were not evil in this country, if you would read your history you would know that. As for the my tax money, it should go for the legal citizens of this country and not the illegal ones. The key word here is ILLEGAL. If your not a legal citizen of this country they don't deserve the benefits. Again SHAME ON YOU.
2006-09-26 07:19:00 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 1⤋
Sweetie,
It is real clear that the only rules you like are the ones you want.
How about this.
Shame on you and any other illegal who is manipulating, cheating, stealing, robbing, using, draining, and otherwise behaving in a very unchristian like manner.
Christians keep the law. Barbarians and criminals break the law. Do not abuse the Christian society with your warped perception of your illegal concepts.
Personally, deportation is too nice. I think chain gangs should come back into vogue.
2006-09-26 08:10:34 · answer #8 · answered by Kate 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Dont You Mean SHAME ON MEXICO ?
For Denying "Basic Human Rights"
like education and health careTo Her Own Citizens ?
Dont Blame US Citizens
For The Shortcomings Of Mexico's Government
2006-09-26 07:31:13 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 0⤋
I agree 100% with you...you are not a very good christian if you deny basic human rights to people who need them. Wish more people felt like you.
That said, there are plenty of us NON-christians who understand that a certain amount of resources can only go so far. We CANNOT feed and school the world's hungry and poor. We are a caring nation that does help out, but we cannot open our doors and say "come one come all".
It's not that we don't want to help, but we can't afford to help EVERYONE!! It is already affecting the quality of schooling, healthcare and law enforcement that our citizens get. If we continue to squander our resources at the rate that the rest of the world needs them, we won't be a very desirable country to live in much longer. That's one solution to our immigration problem. Go broke and then NO ONE will want to come.
I completely agree with you, that we should want to help those in need. But we can't when it's costing you and your family those same basic rights in the end.
I admire your selflessness, I really do, but the logical egghead in me says that our limited resources should really be put to help our own poor.
2006-09-26 07:25:54 · answer #10 · answered by roobs 2 · 2⤊ 0⤋
That's a mighty broad brush, and great sweeping gestures I see! I think you could stand to read a message board populated by a wide spectrum of people from many different countries and learn what some Americans think about how their government is being run. Beware though, they don't take kindly to ignorance or trolling. Read the forum rules, and the topics explaining board culture in ATMB. It would be best if you "lurk" and absorb the board's unique culture. (This is not the identity I use there, by the way.) Also, don't rush to judgements based on only one topic, or a set of posters. This board has many different countries, veiwpoints, and lifestyles represented. Go read The Straight Dope Message Board to learn what some Americans really think.
2006-09-26 07:10:22 · answer #11 · answered by xasshaiza_starhand 2 · 2⤊ 1⤋