If Ishmael could speak with us.?

Question

What would he tell us of God , Of Allah, what would his vision of God be.
When, his foundation, being lay'd by his father Abraham,ishmaels corner stone,( over his first 16 years) -- had been absolutely shattered when he was cast out of his fathers
house and sent away with his mother Haggar. Wouldnt that destroy your ability and desire to believe in the same God as your Father. Him being attacked by all mannor of despare, been abandoned by his father, his corner stone, his blessing, and cast out, what a terrible pain that must be; seen in countlas sons around the world today in the same situation in there broken family lives.
My son is one and l feel his pain . l under stand his empty ness, his anguish, His spiritual dislocation from his loving father, the blessing of Abraham.
How can he believe in my god when l have "abandened" him.
How can l believe in my fathers blessing when he has abandened me ?"I could not.- Believe in God YES , but not as my father, whom has cast me out!

Ishmael was born through disobedience to Gods word

Indeed Bula, this is the root cause of our division

They will come back and see each others as brothers 'IN Christ"

To you zen budda, No Man has the wright to take anothers life , That mans god is a lie, and in the name of Christ ,these forien gods will be over come, and put into submission, They will not prevale.

you can kill my body, but you will not kill the spirit or douse the flame of Christ, the true Son of the Father, mans only salvation.

Answer 1

When Abraham cast Ishmael out over his wifes jealousy, an angel came to Ishmael and his mother,
Did you now there are also 12 nations of Ishmael. !2 is
symbolic of 12 vortexes, (spirals of spiritual force), at work on our world.
Please do not speak without accurate knowledge. We are living in perilous times. And we will be held accountable for our
speech and actions.
God/Allah/The Great Spirit turns His back on noone. We turn from Him.
Today, the Red peoples and Muslims live on top of some of the
wealthiest land, as far as resources. The muslims have the
wisdom to use theirs. Will the Red man continue on his
path, or use the treasures Mother Earth has provided for him.
Time is short.

Answer 2

but we and the history revisionists who wish to control others have spoken

history is written by the dominant ones not the submissive ones

since the story of Abram, Ishmael, Sarah, Isaac, Yakob is all symbolic and based on egyptology Ish doesn't have much to say but rather represents the unfortunates

ABRAHAM

This, the supposed patriarch of the Hebrews, though he may or may not have been an actual historical figure can be linked to a Kemetic prototype like the other mythical characters. His story begins when he as Abram enters the Nile Valley around 2000-1900 BCE. Abraham is said to be the founder of the Semitic people - again, I must caution the reader that "Semitic" is a linguistic term and NOT ethnic as it is being used by Eurocentric media, scholarship, etc. Semitic is used as a euphemism for "Caucasian" regardless of the fact that Chaldea, the region where this Abram came from was populated by numerous ethnic and linguistic tribes. Another skimmed over point is that Hagar who bears Abraham's first son, is an Egyptian woman and her skin would therefore have more than a little "food colouring"

Nevertheless, according to the story, Abraham's first son is Ishmael, albeit by Hagar. Sarai, Abram's wife [and half-sister, thereby betraying yet another parallel with Egypt], becomes jealous of Hagar's ability to conceive and forces her to run away while pregnant with Ishmael into the desert. There, she is confronted by an angel who says: " you are with child and will bear a son. You shall name him Ishmael, because the Lord has heard of your affliction". The Arabs claim him as their progenitor. However, decoding his name with a Kemetic cipher is very revealing: Ishmael is YSMAAL in Hebrew which in Kemetic can be rendered YS-MAIR. YS means "place" and MAIR is "affliction". It doesn't end there because Hagar, in this same encounter, is told that Ishmael will become a "wild ass of a man" evoking the pre-Mosaic veneration of the Golden Ass Yiu, a type of Ra and Set.

Abraham himself is not without an Egyptian root given that the name, in Kemetic, means "the servant of Ra's will". AB [desire or will], Ra [the power of the Divine that causes the sun to shine], IM [fire/light], Hem [servant].

This connection with Ra is strengthened further with the name Isaac, which in Hebrew is YSAK. Isaac, according to the story, was to be burnt as an offering to God. The Kemetic YS [place], AKH [burnt offring] are the keys here. Also God stays the hand of Abraham at the last moment and provides a lamb; this indicates that the zodiacal calendar was in the Age of the Ram.

Other parallels are Ishmael and Isaac, the warring twins that feature prominently in Egyptian spiritual thought; Isaac's marriage to Rebecca - the brother-sister/cousin pairing of Yusir and Auset/Isis and then there is Jacob, both as "Jacob" [Kem. YA-QEB - the heavenly circuit of Ra]. Jacob changes his name to Israel: Kem YS-RA-IR - Ys (place), Ra (sun), IR (create), i.e. the place Ra created i.e. a place in Amenta, where souls, having been justified by Yusir, climb a ladder to Ra's boat. This is the source of the biblical Jacob's Ladder.

Answer 3

Abraham's sin is a scourge on humanity that we are still paying for.

Ishmael was fed by an Angel and kept alive.

Abraham should have stayed with his ONE wife Sarah, but he chose to sin and have an adulterous affair with Hagar. By doing so, he separated himself from God and created hate and wars that continue until this very day. He multiplied his sin by sending Ishmael and Hagar into the Desert to die.

All of the prophets ended up sinning, that is why God finally had to send his Son, Jesus to be the perfect example of Love, Peace, and Forgiveness.

We should learn from our ancestors mistakes!

Peace!

Answer 4

You would benefit greatly by reading a book that has come out recently. Called "The Tent of Abraham" by a jew, a muslim and a christian. It is very informative and deals exactly with what you are talking about.

Remember, Ismail and Isaac came back together to bury Abraham when he died and to fulfill that which was said of them before, that they would come back together and see each other as brothers. How I pray for that now!

Peace and Blessings,

Salim

Answer 5

I don't understand the casting aside of Ishmael. All I know is that it was God's plan and that His people would come from Abraham's legitimate son. And that opposition and war would come from Ishmaels side.

Answer 6

If Ishmael had any brains he would say forget the God myth, get on with living your life in the real world and leave the fairy tales for children.

Answer 7

Hopefully he would still remember being taught about Gods love

Answer 8

Allah would tell you to go to your son and try to fix what is broken.

Answer 9

He would say "GEeez you guys have really farked it up havent yas"