Does God need a "blood atonement"?

Question

The Gnostic plan of salvation was radically different from the Literalists. The Literalists today are insisting that salvation is attained through the “blood of Christ”, yet the “blood of Christ” has failed to solve mankind’s problems.
Perhaps I am lacking in piety or some basic instinct, but I know I am not alone in finding the idea of Jesus’ death as atonement for the sins of all humanity on one level bewildering and on the other morally repugnant. Jesus never to my knowledge said anything to indicate that forgiveness from God could only be granted after or because of the cross. For Christ’s Sake Oxford University Press, Toronto, 1986 pg. 75, Tom Harper
"God sacrificed his own son in place of humans who needed to be punished for their own sins might make some Christians love Jesus, but is an obcene picture of God. It is almost heavenly child abuse, and may infect out imagination at more earthly levels as well. I do not want to express my faith through a theology that pictures God demanding blood sacrifices in order to be reconciled to us." (John Dominic Crossan, Who is Jesus, p. 145-146)
This doctrine (atonement) is a blasphemy against the justice of God. It is highly unjust, inhuman and ungodly, to sacrifice the life of an innocent man, for washing off the sins of sinners. God Almighty is never unjust even in least degree, how this injustice and unkindness can ever be attributed to Him. God Almighty is Absolute and Merciful enough to forgive the sins, even without sacrifices. (Dr. Roshan Enam, Follow Jesus or Follow Paul? p. 52)

God is Just, and justice requires that nobody should be punished for the sins of others, nor should some people be saved by punishing other people. Doesn’t the claim that God sacrificed Jesus to save us because He was Just, contradict the definition of justice?
According to Christians, those who have not been baptized will go to Hell. So even the infants and babies go to Hell if not baptized, since they are born with an inherited original sin. Doesn’t this contradict the definition of justice? Why would God punish people for sins they never committed?

Answer 1

Thank you!!!
and besides, the OT states that the one who sins dies, no one is punished for another person's mistake.

Answer 2

I neither subscribe to the doctrine of the Trinity nor the specific Creed. I believe that the myth of Jesus being crucified and the resurrection are nothing more than a teaching device. In other words it did not happen, but the belief in that mythology is the perfect vehicle in which to induce people to come to the faith, and to God. In the time when the Creed and the myth were created, the early Church and the Roman Empire needed a new cristology to explain the path to heaven. Since most people were ignorant and illiterate, and wanted to believe in gods and messiahs, the vehicle of the Passion provided a miraculous delivery. Come to Jesus, go straight to heaven. My personal experience is that God exists without the elaborate mythology of the Church, and that the story of the death and resurrection of Christ is merely a fiction. Therefore, I would say to you that God did not act cruelly, as no loving creator would do that especially to His messenger. I believe if you burn away all of the fat, the real meat of the faith is the message, not the elaborate and drawn out explanation given in the New Testament. Remember the times. The Sanhedrin and the Pharisees had complicated and obfuscated Judaism as it existed at the time. It had made the religion rigid, inflexible, intolerant and punitive. That's about where the Catholic Church as arrived with respect to all of its policies, dogmas, and liturgies, etc. And many Christian denominations that have splintered off of the Church have in one way or another adopted those rigidities as well. In short, Christianity has devolved into the exact same thing that Christ had himself fought against. A legalistic, formalistic, rigid and intractable religion that obfuscates the message; and separates the people from their own God. Sad. Hence, the myth appears to reveal a punishing God, a cruel God. But in my heart and of my knowledge of God, I know its just not true.

Answer 3

The Christian Bible says that the spirit that lived as Jesus Christ
died the way He did, because that is the way things were done on the Earth. So the Heavens had to take on the same thing.
Think of all the creatures of Earth that have died violent,
bloody deaths. This created negative energies that were slowly
closing the doors to Spirit. That is why Jesus Christ died that way. To use His personal spiritual power to reopen those doors.
The Book says that, "Without the shedding of blood, there is
no remission of sin." It also says in Hebrews, "You have not
yet resisited unto blood."
Blood is a symbolic term for ones personal spiritual power.
Our Creator does nothing in vain. And we will have to go
through a period of suffering in the times ahead. In order to
purge our spirits of all the anger, and resentment, (negative
energy), we hold within. For where the TRUE are going. Those
things cannot exist.

Answer 4

Jesus never taught that god needs blood for anything. Notice that even according to the NT Jesus sent out his guys to "preach the gospel of god"? Now, when they entered a house what exactly did they preach, the cross? No, no cross because he was alive when he sent them and that was not a part of his teaching or his gospel. This is a great blunder and Christians to this day think the cross is part of the gospel but their own bible proves that it's not. Most of them overlook this little detail. Gnostics were right, and they had the authentic stuff, the others were "those on the outside" and preached "another gospel" ;)

Answer 5

Listen - Jesus is God's blood atonement and it is enough. Also baptism does not save us - it is an outward showing of what has taken place inside us - salvation through Jesus. I believe children will go to Heaven - there is an age of accountability. I'm not sure I've answered your question though. Thank you for your comments.

Answer 6

On the other hand, it is a great sacrifice to lay down one's life for a friend--what have we done to deserve this? Imagine the pain and suffering it must have taken to make up for all of the evil sins committed by mankind. Sure, God could have snapped His fingers (assuming He has them) and made it easy--but would we really have appreciated it or understood what a great thing we have in salvation?

Answer 7

You absolutely right. Jesus was a prophet and no blood has to be spilled in order for God to forgive.

Answer 8

a god demanding blood sounds pretty pagan and devilish to me

it actually goes back to egyptian ritual, where the fallen prince was trained and then led a bunch of un schooled laborer nomads

we know him as tut Moses and his side kick who can't intermarry with the heathen non Levite or non egyptians, Arun

Answer 9

Prophet Jesus was not killed, nor is killing anyone the solution to another person's sin.

God is not a body or shape. He is the Creator & created this world with its problems.

It is Paradise which is created without problems.

Answer 10

The god of the Bible is very bloodthirstly. Luckily, he doesn't really exist.