What do you think about reparations?

Question

Here is my take on it: without the years and years of slave labor, America might not be the super power it is today. It may not be the job of the government, but don't you think the American industries who benefited greatly from slave labor owe something to slave's ancestors?

PS if your comment starts with "It was so many years ago/get over it" you can save yourself the trouble, as I've heard that one before...

I should have also said no copy and paste...

Ok, I guess everyone just saw the word 'reparations' and lost their damn minds...

Answer 1

You certainly are one that has acknowledged the truth of America...very refreshing. Of course all Americans are aware to the fact that this country became rich and powerful in large part due to African slaves and their descendants working for little or nothing. You are also correct in the usual response, "that was a long time ago get over it." Others are, "We never owned slaves.", "They sold them to us." Everyone to separate the blame and confuse the issues. I am sure if these people had relatives that were subjected to torture or were killed by the Government they would fight wholeheartedly to receive compensation. Time is a relative factor used extensively by these folk to justify their faulty reasoning. Although if I had a love affair with money I would also find many ways to cover the truth.
Supposed reparations for slavery will never amend the atrocities attributed to the unjust treatment of Human Beings, but with acknowledgment comes eventual healing. Something very funny one answerer stated he is not entitled to the benefits slavery earned Americans, I agree seeing as how a substantial portion belongs to African Slave descendants of which they now share.

Answer 2

And who would be paying this? Me and the rest of the tax payers, I think not. Honestly I am going to give you the answer you don't want because it is the best reason of all. You did not do the work for it. If ex-slaves were alive today great pay them what they are owed. However I am not responsible for the actions of my ancestors, nor am I entitled to the fruits of their labors. To imply that this is the case only shows poor ethics, and greed.

Edit: No you lost your damn mind before you ever posted this.

Edit: I just read some of your other questions to see if you were this dumb all the time or if this was just a temporary brain fart. Honestly I found my self agreeing with you on most topics so I hope you are not taking a pro-reparations stance. Please tell me you just want to kick up some ****. Otherwise you seem like a cool person.

Answer 3

OK Missourim43 no one is gonna read all that, keep it simple we don't have that kind of time. As for the question being asked No, I don't think reparations should be paid. That's all I'm going to say about that because I don't want my answer looking like the first guys. I have a lot to say but I don't feel like doing all that damn typing.

Answer 4

it's a bit late for reparations. no one alive today was ever a slave in the united states. no matter how they may feel by being worked to the bone you were paid to do it, and you had the choice of leaving if you did not like it (except if you are a prisoner on work detail, and in that case you probably did something that warranted you losing your individual rights.). oh and slaves in the US did not have it as bad as other groups like, the native americans, who were ethnically cleansed like the Jews were in Germany....sorry about the rant, but I do not agree with reparations.

Answer 5

Of course they do. It doesn't seem as though it will happen though.

Relatives of slaves have worked hard and still do til this day, but it's a sad point in american history. especially how the american people worship the flag and all it's glory, when that glory revolves around slaves who built many many things for this country to stand on.

Answer 6

Well, I don't know how I can compete with that guy above me, but this is my piece.....That was so many years ago, so just get over it. Look....why should black people today benefit from their ancestors being slaves. Do you realize how many oppressed people over the centuries are looked over in this argument. give it up.

These are the days that I am ashamed to be a Democrat. I get over it quickly when I think about "W" but as a Democrat, I hate liberals.

Answer 7

No. It is just a grab for money by those that are filled with hate. The devil is behind it.

Answer 8

Missourim43, dear, do you really think anyone would sacrifice oneself to read all you've written?

Answer 9

One
There Is No Single Group Clearly Responsible For The Crime Of Slavery

Black Africans and Arabs were responsible for enslaving the ancestors of African-Americans. There were 3,000 black slave-owners in the ante-bellum United States. Are reparations to be paid by their descendants too?

Two

There Is No One Group That Benefited Exclusively From Its Fruits

The claim for reparations is premised on the false assumption that only whites have benefited from slavery. If slave labor created wealth for Americans, then obviously it has created wealth for black Americans as well, including the descendants of slaves. The GNP of black America is so large that it makes the African-American community the 10th most prosperous "nation" in the world. American blacks on average enjoy per capita incomes in the range of twenty to fifty times that of blacks living in any of the African nations from which they were kidnapped.

Three

Only A Tiny Minority Of White Americans Ever Owned Slaves, And Others Gave Their Lives To Free Them

Only a tiny minority of Americans ever owned slaves. This is true even for those who lived in the ante-bellum South where only one white in five was a slaveholder. Why should their descendants owe a debt? What about the descendants of the 350,000 Union soldiers who died to free the slaves? They gave their lives. What possible moral principle would ask them to pay (through their descendants) again?

Four

America Today Is A Multi-Ethnic Nation and Most Americans Have No Connection (Direct Or Indirect) To Slavery

The two great waves of American immigration occurred after 1880 and then after 1960. What rationale would require Vietnamese boat people, Russian refuseniks, Iranian refugees, and Armenian victims of the Turkish persecution, Jews, Mexicans Greeks, or Polish, Hungarian, Cambodian and Korean victims of Communism, to pay reparations to American blacks?

Five

The Historical Precedents Used To Justify The Reparations Claim Do Not Apply, And The Claim Itself Is Based On Race Not Injury

The historical precedents generally invoked to justify the reparations claim are payments to Jewish survivors of the Holocaust, Japanese-Americans and African- American victims of racial experiments in Tuskegee, or racial outrages in Rosewood and Oklahoma City. But in each case, the recipients of reparations were the direct victims of the injustice or their immediate families. This would be the only case of reparations to people who were not immediately affected and whose sole qualification to receive reparations would be racial. As has already been pointed out, during the slavery era, many blacks were free men or slave-owners themselves, yet the reparations claimants make no distinction between the roles blacks actually played in the injustice itself. Randall Robinson's book on reparations, The Debt, which is the manifesto of the reparations movement is pointedly sub-titled "What America Owes To Blacks." If this is not racism, what is?

Six

The Reparations Argument Is Based On The Unfounded Claim That All African-American Descendants of Slaves Suffer From The Economic Consequences Of Slavery And Discrimination

No evidence-based attempt has been made to prove that living individuals have been adversely affected by a slave system that was ended over 150 years ago. But there is plenty of evidence the hardships that occurred were hardships that individuals could and did overcome. The black middle-class in America is a prosperous community that is now larger in absolute terms than the black underclass. Does its existence not suggest that economic adversity is the result of failures of individual character rather than the lingering after-effects of racial discrimination and a slave system that ceased to exist well over a century ago? West Indian blacks in America are also descended from slaves but their average incomes are equivalent to the average incomes of whites (and nearly 25% higher than the average incomes of American born blacks). How is it that slavery adversely affected one large group of descendants but not the other? How can government be expected to decide an issue that is so subjective - and yet so critical - to the case?

Seven

The Reparations Claim Is One More Attempt To Turn African-Americans Into Victims. It Sends A Damaging Message To The African-American Community.

The renewed sense of grievance -- which is what the claim for reparations will inevitably create -- is neither a constructive nor a helpful message for black leaders to be sending to their communities and to others. To focus the social passions of African-Americans on what some Americans may have done to their ancestors fifty or a hundred and fifty years ago is to burden them with a crippling sense of victim-hood. How are the millions of refugees from tyranny and genocide who are now living in America going to receive these claims, moreover, except as demands for special treatment, an extravagant new handout that is only necessary because some blacks can't seem to locate the ladder of opportunity within reach of others -- many less privileged than themselves?

Eight

Reparations To African Americans Have Already Been Paid

Since the passage of the Civil Rights Acts and the advent of the Great Society in 1965, trillions of dollars in transfer payments have been made to African-Americans in the form of welfare benefits and racial preferences (in contracts, job placements and educational admissions) - all under the rationale of redressing historic racial grievances. It is said that reparations are necessary to achieve a healing between African-Americans and other Americans. If trillion dollar restitutions and a wholesale rewriting of American law (in order to accommodate racial preferences) for African-Americans is not enough to achieve a "healing," what will?

Nine

What About The Debt Blacks Owe To America?

Slavery existed for thousands of years before the Atlantic slave trade was born, and in all societies. But in the thousand years of its existence, there never was an anti-slavery movement until white Christians - Englishmen and Americans -- created one. If not for the anti-slavery attitudes and military power of white Englishmen and Americans, the slave trade would not have been brought to an end. If not for the sacrifices of white soldiers and a white American president who gave his life to sign the Emancipation Proclamation, blacks in America would still be slaves. If not for the dedication of Americans of all ethnicities and colors to a society based on the principle that all men are created equal, blacks in America would not enjoy the highest standard of living of blacks anywhere in the world, and indeed one of the highest standards of living of any people in the world. They would not enjoy the greatest freedoms and the most thoroughly protected individual rights anywhere. Where is the gratitude of black America and its leaders for those gifts?

Ten

The Reparations Claim Is A Separatist Idea That Sets African-Americans Against The Nation That Gave Them Freedom

Blacks were here before the Mayflower. Who is more American than the descendants of African slaves? For the African-American community to isolate itself even further from America is to embark on a course whose implications are troubling. Yet the African-American community has had a long-running flirtation with separatists, nationalists and the political left, who want African-Americans to be no part of America's social contract. African Americans should reject this temptation.

For all America's faults, African-Americans have an enormous stake in their country and its heritage. It is this heritage that is really under attack by the reparations movement. The reparations claim is one more assault on America, conducted by racial separatists and the political left. It is an attack not only on white Americans, but on all Americans -- especially African-Americans.

America's African-American citizens are the richest and most privileged black people alive -- a bounty that is a direct result of the heritage that is under assault. The American idea needs the support of its African-American citizens. But African-Americans also need the support of the American idea. For it is this idea that led to the principles and institutions that have set African-Americans - and all of us -- free.