Beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,
there is a field. I'll meet you there.
When the soul lies down in that grass,
the world is too full to talk about.
Ideas, language, even the phrase: `each other',
doesn't make any sense.
~Rumi
To know God, there must be two qualifying factors:
1.) Unrelenting longing and seeking
2.) We must empty ourselves of all of our ideas, preconceptions, opinions and previous experiences.
When we long for God, for Truth, and Purity, and Peace, and Fullness, then we are like a magnet for God.
When we are empty of ourselves, and become willing, humble and receptive, God may descend into our 'empty cup', and fill it with Grace.
However, if we seek God for selfish purposes, we may stumble across impostors, who would seek to full fill our desires, but are none-the-less just great-seeming imposters.
This is why we must first examine and purify our motivations before we can find God. It is our own inner obstructions which prevents our inner contact with Divinity.
Oh yes, it is within our hearts that the Divine contacts us. Until we find God there, the outer world is only a distraction.
It is possible to describe Divinity, using many flowery words, but these words are only indications, definitions and delineations for something that is ultimately Boundless and Indescribable.
One may only know God through experience of God. This experience may be found by pursuing an unrelenting quest to find God, which it seems you have begun.
In order to ensure success in our quest, this must become the purpose of your life, with all other considerations secondary (especially gaining anything for our selves, we must find 'Right Motivation').
When all that hinders us in knowing God from within is cast aside, when we have 'put all we have beneath our feet' (and all we think ourselves to be), then surely God will come into our hearts.
Godspeed,
Sunny
2006-09-24 13:51:06
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answered by Anonymous
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Hi
I asked the same question 10 years ago and my answer came most unexpectedly. I too read the bible and other philosophical books but there was an inner desire to find the meaning of life and who I was and why I was here. I went to spiritualists studied horoscopes, read books about near death experiences, meditated etc. At the time I was in my mid 30s. I had been brought up (to the age of 15) as seventh day adventist which is basically a christian cult that goes to church on saturdays and now as an adult, I absolutely dispised christians, as I saw them as stuck up, hypocrital snobs. Somehow my wife dragged my down to the local church and we started doing an Alpha course, which I hated, I just read the bible to try and trip up the dum christians who ran it. Part of the course said that if you prayed and asked Jesus to come into you and to be your Lord then he would. I couldn't believe the stupidity of these people so I thought that I would do it in all sincerity but knowing that it wouldn't work so I could really give them a hard time for nothing happening. But after 3 days, something did happen, in fact it happened to my wife who was in a different place at exactly the same time.
I can only describe it as a liquid love being poured of me and the sense of awesome power was incredable, this lasted for 3 weeks if I prayed for anything it simply happened, I knew when the phone would ring, I knew who was at the door if someone knocked, I hardly slept but felt refreshed all the time and I had an insatable desire to read the bible. This experience lasted 3 weeks, we could not take this any longer so we prayed and asked God for it to be stopped.
Thats how God found me. What is God you ask ? He is the most loving, most powerful, most beautiful, most tender being you will ever encounter but you have to go to Him and invite Him in. If you pray and ask for Jesus to come into your life without any strings I guarentee you'll find God. This is the only way. Your experience may not be like mine but if you are sincere God will reveal himself to you. Then you will find out first hand "What God is".
Andy
2006-09-25 05:12:19
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answered by Andy 4
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If you studied all that stuff and haven't found God then you probably realize by now that it's all a bunch of bullshit made up by humans years ago. If you think about it not much of it makes any sense. God in the Old Testament was a prick. In the New Testament he's a loving God. Why the change? He's supposed to be the same God. None of it makes sense. You're on the right track finding nothing in those holy books.
2006-09-24 18:54:36
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answered by Anonymous
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He is a spirit, and you have to be in the spirit to feel him, like meditation, listen to Gospel music, listen to preaching, read in John, its the love chapter, start out just like a baby, because thats what you are when you first get saved, I know people see the things going on in the world today, and the fear what will be tomorrow,we don`t know, we are not promised another day, the only thing I have found that I could trust, was God.
2006-09-24 19:17:40
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answered by theladylooking 4
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perhaps you are asking the wrong question. For centuries questions like this have been asked with a variety of answers some of which are are diametrically opposed. Where is the proof that god exists. Your right to life ,liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, however you define them exists in most countries, therefore are you happy personally whether god exists or no?
2006-09-24 20:07:04
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answered by COLIN B 1
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No concept will suffice, especially not the ones that make god into a projection of people's egos. Forget completely about god and think about existence itself -- that no matter what, something always existed. Then realize that you and I are literally part of that -- but not the 'you' and 'I' that we think we are. We then need to go for a direct experience -- an enlightenment experience -- where our CONCEPTS and teachings (buddhist, whatever) are used as TOOLS and NOT ends in and of themselves. We need to have the same experience as the buddha or, in christianity, as St John of the cross, Meister Eckhart, etc. This experience is an experience of what we really are and what 'god' is -- there's NO other way. Read '3 pillars of zen' for more info. And if u find zen to be your path (it does NOT have to be -- e.g. for me, I like 'A Course in Miracles'), then u might want to try 'Intro to Zen' at Zen Mountain Monastery in NY.
2006-09-24 18:43:57
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answered by Anonymous
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The ALL in ALL....
from the kybalion
"(1) THE ALL must be ALL that REALLY IS. There can be nothing existing outside of THE ALL, else THE ALL would not be THE ALL.
2) THE ALL must be INFINITE, for there is nothing else to define, confine, bound, limit; or restrict THE ALL. It must be Infinite in Time, or ETERNAL,--it must have always continuously existed, for there is nothing else to have ever created it, and something can never evolve from nothing, and if it had ever "not been," even for a moment, it would not "be" now,--it must continuously exist forever, for there is nothing to destroy it, and it can.never "not-be," even for a moment, because something can never become nothing. It must be Infinite in Space--it must be Everywhere, for there is no place outside of THE ALL--it cannot be otherwise than continuous in Space, without break, cessation, separation, or interruption, for there is nothing to break, separate, or interrupt its continuity, and nothing with which to "fill in the gaps." It must be Infinite in Power, or Absolute, for there is nothing to limit, restrict, restrain, confine, disturb or condition it--it is subject to no other Power, for there is no other Power.
(3) THE ALL must be IMMUTABLE, or not subject to change in its real nature, for there is nothing to work changes upon it nothing into which it could change, nor from which it could have changed. It cannot be added to nor subtracted from; increased nor diminished ; nor become greater or lesser in any respect whatsoever. It must have always been, and must always remain, just what it is now--THE ALL--there has never been, is not now, and never will be, anything else into which it can change. "
2006-09-24 18:47:06
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answered by justmejb 1
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God means about as much as "flarf". Talk of gods is literally nonsense. The question 'Does God exist?' has the same logical status as 'What color is Saturday?' -- neither has a meaningful answer because both concepts are completely nonsensical and therefore cannot yield comprehensible responses.
The word "God" denotes an incomprehensible concept. An absurd concept. A concept full of logical contradictions. Such concepts ought to be rejected as nonsense rather than believed or even seriously considered as live possibilities.
Before we can say "X exists," we must know what X is. This involves our being able to clearly separate X from not-X and our being able to draw up a list of clear, understandable characteristics which distinguish X. This simply is not possible with regard to "God." In light of this, it is no more meaningful to say "God exists" than to say "Goj exists" or "Gok exists." Indeed, it makes no more sense to say, think, or believe "God exists" than it makes sense to say, think, or believe that any arbitrary, undefined collection of three letters represents something which actually exists.
One cannot know that something exists unless one knows what it is that exists.
"To deny all the qualities of a being is equivalent to denying the being himself. A being without qualities is one which cannot become an object to the mind, and such a being is virtually non-existent." - Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, p. 14
If one makes an exception for "God," one must make an exception for an infinite number of similar concepts and entities in order to be logically consistent. This is another way of saying that one must abandon the realm of rationality and enter a realm of absurdity, madness, and delusion.
2006-09-24 18:40:21
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answered by Anonymous
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God is an inspirational figure for many people - he gives comfort to those who feel the need to believe in a higher power to give purpose to their lives.
Personally, I think it is a very weak arguement. I think we are here for no purpose other than to exist for as long as we are alive - after that - we die and that is the end of it. I don't need a fiction to make sense of my reality! I am, I was, I am no more!
it started as a fiction to make us better people through moral guidance. I don't need a 'god' to tell me how to live a moral life. i believe in respect for people as long as they show respect for others.
2006-09-24 18:58:45
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answered by Fluffy 5
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god isnt a thing, god is an ideology. well god isnt, but the belief in the one true god is. we all travel teh road to damascus..i was passing nagasaki and saw the bright lights..but no god, he missed out on hiroshima..lots of bright light, and a booming as of brass shields being beaten... but he didnt show, did s-he?
god is in your mind. the god of the catholic church may be a different god to you..but whatever hes called, he's still god..and dont go looking for him, or her, when the time comes, god will find you.
2006-09-24 18:51:23
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answered by Anonymous
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