I am asking you this as an American. Lets take a little scenario and tell me what you think:
Lets just say the Kurds were going through a massive Holocaust like event and they started fleeing here to the U.S.A. to avoid persecution and massacre. Imagine that their numbers kept increasing to a massive point. Then one day the United Nations states that we have to split our country with them and they are recieving support from everywhere in the world. Then a war breaks out and we lose and we become an occupied nation. Will you ever or should you ever stop fighting to retake your land?
Should the Palestinians ever stop fighting for their land?
I know this scenario is highly unlikely but I am just showing you the issue from another perspective.
2006-09-24 10:27:40 · 12 answers · asked by Angry_Ayrab 1 in Politics & Government ➔ Military
No, one should never stop fighting for what is rightfully theirs. Look what happened to the natives of the United States, they are now living on reservations and have many social problems.
There is no such thing as a two state solution because that is just like you moving into my 4 bedroom house killing my dad and leaving me in one bedroom then telling me that I can have another bedroom (giving me back a buffer zone) if I am peacfull, this is pure bull.
2006-09-24 10:30:19 · answer #1 · answered by Ignorant_American 3 · 2⤊ 2⤋
The media in the US does not even let the people hear the other side of the story here, and it sucks. Israel has been slaughtering Palestinians for years using American bought weapons.
Meanwhile the media treats Israel like some poor helpless, innocent lamb. Israel has a patent on terrorism. Read about the USS Liberty and then ask yourself 'why have I never heard about that?'
But to answer your question, NO the occupied countries shouldn't stop fighting. I wouldn't stop fighting if someone occupied the US (illegal-alien Mexicans burning American Flags in the streets not-withstanding.)
...and on the issue of 'terrorism.' How else are you supposed to oppose a force using tanks and bombs to destroy your country?
2006-09-24 17:40:31 · answer #2 · answered by Elvis W 3 · 3⤊ 1⤋
The Palestinians did not use extreme violence until the 1970s. Before 1967, they had a homeland. FIVE YEARS after being under occupation and trying peaceful means of obtaining justice through the UN, the attack on jewish athletes in Munich happened. Violence wasn't their first resort, it was done after all reasonable means were exhausted.
It's the same way with Iran. Before 1953, it was a free country and a democracy; it was only after 20 years of brutal rule by the Shah (whom the US and UK helped *overthrow* the democracy in 1953) did muslim extremism take hold.
It happened in Australia, in Africa, in the US and Canada, etc. Those who were living their when imperialists came were willing to be patient and talk first. Check the history books.
The only groups that used violence _immediately_ after they were oppressed were the ones who used violence before they were oppressed. Peaceful people only turn violent after all peaceful means have been tried and failed.
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2006-09-24 17:39:25 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
As a US Citizen and former soldier, I would never stop fighting to protect this fine country. As a representitive republic, I would hope that my leaders would never get us into a situation like that. If they did, then I would do what I had to do.
Your point is understood, however, you cannot compare your scenerio to that of Palestine. It is nothing like what you described, and they have time and time again been offered territory and boundaries, yet they turn to attack at the drop of a hat over the space of a large mall parking lot. That isn't fighting for a state or country...that is greed and conquest.
2006-09-24 17:31:49 · answer #4 · answered by tjjone 5 · 3⤊ 0⤋
An occupied people should never stop fighting for what is theirs. However, it is always best to try to make peace. Instead of splitting the country, why can't they rule it together? I think the US is actually a good example of the way different types of people can get along.
Still... Point taken.
2006-09-24 17:36:24 · answer #5 · answered by Kharm 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
the American Natives, or Indian Tribes of North America are still fighting to this day
not very successful, same fate as Aussie Bush men from other occupiers
what really sucks is attributing it to a "God promised" land according to faith and religion not about principle, loving neighbor, or ethics
should America have revolted against Britain for Revolution...they did and won, but not for principle, but for greed and exploitations
2006-09-24 19:01:04 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
It depends on your world view and beliefs. Tibetians have chosen not to engage in acts of violence against Chineese as their leader teaches them so but most faiths for instance definitely call for fight in case of invasion, or oppression, no matter who the oppressor is local or foriegner, Muslim or Jewish. Also you can not stay silent while your human brothers are tortured and deprived of their rights. Silence is a sin that will buy you a ticket to hell.
One should stand up for what he believes or choose to live like other farm animals.
2006-09-24 17:45:29 · answer #7 · answered by Pishisauraus 3 · 4⤊ 0⤋
Your 'little scenario" is BOGUS. You're obviously beefing about Israel, a tiny nation that hasn't taken any land other than what has been necessary to buffer themselves against attacks by other people who hate them and have repeatly tried to kill them.
Israel has willingly given back some of these buffer zones along with a renewed offer of peace, and found that rabid enemies have immediately moved in with mortars and rockets to attack them again. The leader of Hezbollah already brags that he has re-armed and has 20,000 rockets at the ready.
There is no other "perspective" than telling it like it is.
2006-09-24 17:50:04 · answer #8 · answered by senior citizen 5 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Time and time again Israel has tried to make peace with its neighbors, by giving into their demands. Israel just wants to live in peace and quiet. This is why Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon in 2000 and from Gaza last year.
These withdrawals have only led to violence. In the north, Hizbollah has amassed a large arsenal of weapons in Israel's absence, that it is now shooting down onto Israel. Gaza has become a terrorist haven. As soon as Israel withdrew the began further attacking Israel. The 'palestinian' culture is one of hatred and violence - and cannot exist without it. The cannot accept peace, and won't allow it to happen.
"Palestinians" were a people created in the last century solely for the purpose of waging a campaign of violence against Israel. 50 -75 years ago the term "palestinian" meant Jew, but today the local Arabs have coined themselves 'palestinian' and have created a culture of hatred and violence. These are values taught to young children in schools. Peace and tolerance are not taught.
Israel has movements such as "shalom achshav" that preach peace at any cost. These groups are free to criticize the Israeli at any time. Why is there no Arab version of "shalom achshav".
Througout history, every Israeli overture of peace has resulted in more violence. In 1947 / 48 Israel agreed to a 2 state solution. The Arabs response was War. In 1993 the Oslo accords began the handing of autonomous power to the 'palestinians'. This lead to an increase in regular suicide bombings. Buses all over Israel were bombed on a regular basis. In 2000 Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak agreed to give to the palestinians 97% of the land Israel captured in the 1967 war from Jordan and Egypt (not Including the Sinai that was already given away). The 'palestinians' did not accept this. They were offered a state, and they said NO! Their response - the second Intifada. Finally, last year Israel withdrew fro Gaza, this resulted in IMMEDIATE violence, including the daily bombing of Sderot and Ashkelon, in addition to the more recent kidnapping of an Israeli soldier.
In summary, Israel offers peace, arabs respond with violence. To me, this justifies military action. Israel already attempted diplomacy and good will. This was flat out rejected. The arabs want a war, and now they have one.
Israel needs to root out these 2 terrorist organizations, and make the WORLD a safer and better place to live.
2006-09-24 17:34:23 · answer #9 · answered by ? 2 · 1⤊ 3⤋
you chang the history to your need.
the so-called palestinians are the conquerer. you can tell lies to those who don't read the real history.
for your - and the other- information, it is true that the jew were defeated by the romans - on 70 ..
mohamad was born about 600 years LATER!!! and the arabs conquer israel -using that the jews were won by the roman. not the arabs won the jews!!!
and after that they conquer israel. using brutal force - the jewish population was decreased.
so, who are the missrable? the jew who lost their only country, or the arabs which have more contries that you have in your hands and legs???
and about fighting - i can quote bibi:
if the arabs will stop the fighting - there will be no war.
if israel will stop fighting - there will be no israel.
2006-09-24 17:42:47 · answer #10 · answered by eli a 3 · 1⤊ 2⤋