Dark Matter?

Question

If I choose not to believe in dark matter or dark energy, simply because it has not been seen, detected or proven to be real, even though there is an overwhelming amount of evidence to support its existence, does it mean that it is not real?

Is there anyone here arrogant enough to say that there will be a day when only the existence of God is a matter without physical proof or disproof?

Note my name. I will scrutinize the scientific and logical validity of your answers

Answer 1

Scrutinize this for logical validity:

Your belief, or disbelieve in anything, will not affect its existence. A blind man need not see his world to have faith that it exists. Senses are just interpretations of physical stimuli. No matter how many senses you perceive something with (i.e., dark matter, God, feces) with, you could always require stronger proof. The ultimate fact is that there is no truly conclusive proof of ANYTHING in this universe. Anything could be an illusion or misinterpretation. ALL beliefs are matters of faith. Even the belief that we ourselves exist. And so, I suggest that even though dark matter is non-reflective of light, you take into account the other evidence of its existence just as a blind man does in order to make sense of his surroundings. Take "faith" in that which makes sense and is logically consistent with the appearance of the universe. Scientific theory is just a collection of beliefs which have survived scientific scrutiny, perhaps the most demanding scrutiny that exists in the quest for truth and understanding.

Answer 2

I don't want to be a spoil-sport, but if your intention was to bolster the validity of "God" arguments, then I fear you may have torpedoed your own ship.

Do you seriously believe that scientists can glibly reject dark matter because it hasn't been "seen, detected, or proven to be real?" I say this in light of your own following statement about the "overwhelming evidence." (By the way, since you are a scientist, you already know that a bit more about the subject has just recently come to light on this - no pun intended.)

In short, yes, there is evidence suggesting that something like dark matter is needed for there to be theoretical coherence with many observations. (Let's leave the dark energy discussion for another time.)

Where I see the misfire in your proposal, if indeed I get it right, is your application of that criteria to what you call "God." Are you saying that there is "overwhelming evidence" for the existence of your god in the same way as it exists for dark matter? If it is, I hope it's something more than the creationist watch-maker proposal.

In any case, hoping not to sound too "arrogant," I think we all might understand your proposition better if something by the way of that "overwhelming" evidence was actually presented. (But again, if it's along the lines of " ... well, somebody had to create the something .." then trust me, we've already heard it and found it woefully wanting.)

Answer 3

No, it does not mean it's not real. Just means we have no way of detecting it or to prove, exactly, what it is. It's the best answer for what is unknown at this time.

As for physical proof, no one can give it when it concerns proving the existance of a God. It's silly to even attempt it. One could point outside and say Creation proves their God, but that is only opinion and can't be used as a scientific fact.

Answer 4

Have no idea what you're talking about. There is always
something sinister about darkness. Most evil deeds are
done in the dark of night. Jesus is the LIght, just the
opposite of darkness. The Light always does away with
darkness. It replaces it. Our eyes are then open when the
Light comes. Only the existance of God matters. Your
life will come and go (like the wind).

Answer 5

The Bible never attempts to prove the existence of God. His existence is taken on faith by the believer. Faith is hope in the unseen; but one day those that love God and accept him will see him face to face in heaven. If a person can look at the universe around them and say that there is no God, then they have been blinded by their own arrogance.

Answer 6

Actually the debate concerning Dark matter amongst the scientific community is quite heated. There are quite a few scientists who reject it citing flaws in the evidence and the theories.

Answer 7

Dark matter is one of the things that keeps us from seeing the center of our galaxy which is in the direction of Sagittarius.

I don't really follow you on the rest of your question. Sorry about that.

Answer 8

Well in a really dark room isn't that dark matter? I also agree with not surrounding myself with "dark energy"! However, when it's dark it's dark...kinda like the color black! Tar would also be "dark matter"...anyhow, hope I made ya smile!!! Have a good one!
Myss33

Answer 9

There is a big difference between believing a pile of crap is exists and believing that a talking pile of crap that controls the universe exists.

Answer 10

Until evidence is brought forth that proves somethings existence, or lack-there-of, I refuse to believe either way.