Who here believes God is in everything?

Question

Pantheism is the belief that God is in everything.. it involves obvious misunderstanding of Creator and creation. This is very common, apparently.

Ok, you can't say "no" and then say you DO believe he is in everything. Is a painter in his painting? Is a sculpture the same the sculptor? Thank you, whomever it was that clarified that Pantheism is the failure to separate between Creator and creation. And no, you can't "kinda believe that, but in other words" when you don't believe in God at all. Is God the same as the universe?

Answer 1

Please read my words carefully:
If you see footmark in the sand, you'll say that someone passed from here...
If you see a piece of dog sh*t on the ground, you'll say that a dog passed from here...
So what about the enormous universe, the sky, stars, planets, earth and all the beauty in it, doesn't it lead to that someone made it?!!!

Some people say that everything is created by itself after the big-bang... I won't ask you about what caused the big-bang, but I'll ask you a simple question:
If you take all the letters of the alphabet, multiples of them, and you threw them randomly on the floor. Do you expect (by a chance of one in infinity) to get a poem like shakespear's??!!

Can't you see how organized our universe is, the planets, the eco-system on earth, look even in your own body... Can you control your heart-beat? Can you control your breath while you're sleeping? Who stopped your eye-lashes from growing after reaching a certain length? Who told the baby turtles to move towards the sea and not to the earth after they come out of their eggs? Who taught the bird how to make nests?

My friend, think with your heart and brain. If you're still lost, think about the following:

Do you know how to play safe?
Your point:
If there's no God and you do all what you want in life, then nothing will happen to you after life. But if there was God and you were mistaken, then you'll blame yourself FOREVER...

Believer's point:
If there's God and I followed His commands in life, then I'll be in Heaven after life FOREVER. But if there was no God and we're mistaken, then nothing bad will happen to us after life...

Now you know how to play-safe, in case you're not convinced?

Answer 2

When you look around this beautiful world you cant help but appreciate the greatness of the creator. Yes I believe God is everywhere and in everything.

Answer 3

each little thing that you word and pay interest to is a workstation application created by making use of a madman named Zarkov, who lives on the earth Espinozakosa, it truly is eighteen,000 trillion ordinary years from the planet Cyahamanous. Zarkov changed into in competition with Muscalini, a scientist residing on Cyahamanous, to ascertain who ought to strengthen the most outrageous workstation application that in touch the introduction of an finished Universe, with its personal good judgment and structure. Zarkov changed into the first to go back up with the idea of an Earth, a God, a series of religions that had all kinds of ideas about what God or the Gods were, the devil, and an complicated historic past and progression of the creatures in the international. even with the reality that Zarkov's workstation application changed into an fairly useful one in that each one the creatures interior this technique had surely no idea that they were all portion of an complicated workstation application, the judges determined that Muscalini's Universe turned right into a more advantageous acceptable one. finally the judges ruled that Zarkov's workstation application changed into with out any meaning or good judgment, and that lots of the creatures were programmed to finish stupid projects, ideas, and existence, and to gang up on one yet another to create wars. subsequently, Muscalini's workstation application received first position. The judges felt that Muscalini created a self-contained Universe in which all creatures strived to make their Universe a more advantageous acceptable position, and dedicated themselves to the optimal ranges of information. At any fee, i am hoping that i have cleared up the secret of why issues look so screwed up on what human beings the following imagine is "Earth"-- yet is fairly in basic terms a defective workstation application..... a 2d-fee try by making use of a mad scientist named Zarkov, from the planet Espinozakosa.

Answer 4

as jewishgirl said, you are the one with the misunderstanding.

beliving that god is detached from creation, is a failure of undertstanding the nature of things.

why are you so attached to god NOT being truly omniscient, and Omnipotent? why do you have this idea that God is limited to being merely some sort of super-human, but finite being?

I will try to explain it as well as I can. bear with me, first categorizations.

1) everything that IS. that is, all things that exist at this time. in all of the universe as we know it.
2) #1, over all time. that is, everything that is, ever has, and ever will exist. follow so far?
3) everything that has not. this is #2, in negative. all things that ever have NOT existed, the space thats space, but not an absolute void of utter un-existance.
4) the sum total of 3 and 2 combined.
5) #4, of all dimensions(including this one) that exist (dimensions, planes, timelines, alternate realitys, what have you, all of that)
6) #5, that do NOT exist. (similar to 3, but at a different "tier")
7) 5+6.
8) anything thats unaccounted for in the running total as of #7. that is, anything thats left over by any of these categorizations so far. no exceptions.
9) 7+8. at this point theres nothing outside of this total. no space, no random particles, no loose radiations, if you crammed this sum into one ball, nothing would exist outside of this single object floating in an absolutely empty void of un-existance.
10) #9+1. (not #9+#1, the sum in #9, "plus one" as in one more of whatever unit you can think of, to total to more than the sum of the parts) this is GOD. this gestalt sum of the total of the infinite of infinitys, is the sentient awareness that we know as GOD.

this was explained in a book I read, as there being 3 capitalizations to designate different meanings of what one means when they say the word "god"

GOD: this profoundly impersonal gestalt sum of everything. its essentially the awareness of all that is.
God: this is slightly less-whole, but while still having "full acess and awareness" to all that is. just... in a slghtly more personable form.
god: this is a component aspect of the sum, that is much more personable, and much more interact-able.

if you REALLY wanted to, one could bend the mindset a little, and translate this to the 3 parts of the christian god, with the holy spirit = GOD, the father = God, and jesus being "god".

but you see, for example, Judaism, does not recognize the smallest form, because its too prone to resulting in bad things, like Idolotry, and its too common, and incomplete to be worthy of worship. only GOD is worthy of worship in jewish beliefs, and GOD/God is not really distinguished much, because the difference in power/one-ness is trivial, its really more of being communicable.

the idea being that GOD is everything, and everything is part of, and IS "GOD"

to use the sculptor/sculpture type analogys is silly, as it reduces god to merely a super-human shaper of physicality, with only massive powers to apply will, and great understanding, rather than true omnisicence or omnipotence.

whoo. hopefully that sunk in a bit... because I can't break it down any more simple than that.

Answer 5

its not a misunderstanding of creation and the creator. its the disbelief that the creation and the creator are separate. they certainly UNDERSTAND the idea of a transcendal G-d, they just don't believe it.

"Thank you, whomever it was that clarified that Pantheism is the failure to separate between Creator and creation"

i did not say failure, i said disbelief. failure implies faulty reasoning and inferiority. before you say failure, you need to explain how their reasoning is faulty and inferior.

Answer 6

God spoke the word and then created the world and then us. Now he watches to see what we will do with it. He created the world that means that a piece of him is indeed in it.

Answer 7

I believe that kinda, not in those words though. I believe there is no god, and the natural world and everything in it is the only equivalent

Answer 8

i do, normally im agnostic, but sometimes i believe that god is not a being or an entity but an energy, an energy or force that permeates all universe and the things in it and started existing when the universe did.

Answer 9

I believe some religious frontmen tend to push God into everything. Is that the same?

Answer 10

Nope. Evolution and natural selection are the key to all natural forces....funny how religion and supernatural forces always filled the gaps...until we started learning more about where we live. Read Origin of Species--fascinating and insightful.