Do You Think The Spiked Training Collar Should Be Banned?

Question

I was watching the Dog Whisper and he recommended using the spike training collar for this one particular dog. In case you have no idea what it looks like follow the
link: http://www.morrco.com/spiktraincol2.html

Harlee29, you are correct. We watched Ceasar faithfully and he said the collar should only be used by trained professionals. He said, "The prongs mimicks a dog bite."

However many thought the collar shouldn't be used at all. I was curious as to how others thought.

GitEmGang: You need professional help. Perhaps, anger management classes

Answer 1

While it looks painful, it's actually less harmful to the dog than a slip or choke collar.

The advantage of the prong collar over the choke collar is that the circumference is limited so that it is impossible to compress the animal's throat. Another advantage is that any pressure on the dog's neck is spread out over a larger area than with most buckle collars, and with all choke chains.

There was study done on prong and choke collars.

100 dogs were in the study. 50 used choke and 50 used prong.
The dogs were studied for their entire lives. As dogs died, autopsies were performed.

Of the 50 which had chokes, 48 had injuries to the neck, trachea, or back. 2 of those were determined to be genetic. The other 46 were caused by trauma.

Of the 50 which had prongs, 2 had injuries in the neck area, 1 was determined to be genetic. 1 was caused by trauma.

AtiaoftheJulii, thankyou for you vote of support :-)

As you mentioned, it should nNOT be used for the novice trainer. It really isn't as cruel as most seem to think, which is why I added the study that was done on the hundred dogs..

Answer 2

Used properly in the hands of someone with experience these collars are fine. They are only a training tool and my goal is to use one long enough to get the control I need and move out of that collar and into a regular collar.
They are a tool and should be used for training and only for a short of time as really needed. The goal should be to be able to teach the dog and have them work in any collar the owner wishes to use. The prong collar is just there to get some quick control when you really need it.

Answer 3

prong collars are very useful---if they are used properly. I've used one on my dog, as well on a malamute puppy i'm training. They should only be used by people who know how to use them. For example: Never put the collar on over the dogs head(you can injure the eyes). Make sure it fits properly(yes, they do need to fit properly in order to work) Many people place these collars on their dogs and let the dogs pull. NOT SMART!!! the collar is a training aid.. it should be used to make corrections( a slight, quick snap of the wrist along with the word"heel" or "sit") They are helpful, and they are not cruel in the hands of a knowledgable owner.

Answer 4

I hate these collars and in an ideal world there would be no use for them. However we need to realize that there are certain times when they become necessary. The reason they are necessary is of coarse because someone improperly or didn't at all bother to train their dog(s) as puppies. Go to any dog show and you will never see one of these used on the largest Rottweiler, or Akita. There simply isn't the need because the dogs have been trained since birth almost to behave well with others. I think that people should have to be licensed to own a dog, not the dog being licensed. It's people's stupidity that makes these barbaric devices necessary. I should also point out that in the right hands these aren't really that bad, they look a lot worse than they are. Normal people on the street shouldn't be able to buy them though unless they know how to use them. The same goes for choke chains for that matter as people missus these as well.

Answer 5

The spiked training color is not really necessary for most any dog. Most dogs will respond to any standard choke collar just as well. Unfortunately some people have a tendency to buy dogs that are far too big for them.
I once had a student and she was about 98 pounds and she had a Newfi that was about 110 pounds and only a little over a year old!
At this point the dog was far too out of control and was actually knocking her down on the ground. Even a spiked training collar would not have worked.
I suggested a shock collar and it was what worked for her.
It all depends on the ratio of your strength level vs. the dog that you are working with.
To answer your question though I do not think spiked collars should be banned to everyone, Although I do think that they should have rules about only experienced people using them. They can cause damage if not used properly.

Answer 6

Pinch or spike collars are not the "Ideal". If a large breed dog is not "Getting it" it is a option. Large dog + smaller handler it may be necessary.**** Keepin mind natural dog behavior ,Dogs bite each other on the neck to achieve a desired behavior and to assert dominance*** Though the pinch collar should not be a 1st choice, it beats letting your dog continue a bad behavior.ONE ADDITIONAL NOTE, a dogs neck is the toughest part of their body and not even nearly as sensitve as ours. Cesar knows what he is doing, We were lucky enough to have him work with us and our dog ,she is doing great and very happy.

Answer 7

I don't think they should be banned. However, I absolutely believe that they should NOT be sold commercially. They should be sold only to those with a license/certificate in dog training. People in general are heartless idiots and will abuse the intended uses for the collar. If a dog is that out of control that it warrants the use of the collar, then they should be taken to a trainer, anyway.

Answer 8

NO,,, the people that misuse them should be banned.
Actually a prong collar is a valuable training tool in the hands of someone that knows how to use one properly.

Collars do not have the ability to abuse,,, that is reserved for the hand at the other end of the lead.

I have seen a normal flat buckle collar used in an abusive manner,,, but that wasn't the collars fault,,,

Answer 9

I use them on my 3 dogs when we take the to the vet or out in public where other animals will be. Ours dogs are 90 to over 100lbs and very well behaved so its not them that I worry about. Its the idiots that walk their dogs on retractable leashes. They don't control theirs and think everyone Else's dogs want to play with theirs and don't pay any attention that others may not want to play with their uncontrollable dog. So mine are well under control should a problem arise I can get mine away with out any fights breaking out. Plus the fact if you put one of those collars around your own neck and use it the proper way and it doesn't hurt I tried before putting them on my own dogs didn't want to hurt them and I know their skin is alot tougher than mine.

Answer 10

no, they shouldn't be banned . . . they really work and reinforce to the dog that what they are doing is wrong . . . they work best for big dogs or dogs that are simply out of control . . .