Do catholics realise they attend the great harlot church mentioned in revelations of the end times.?

Question

read daniel 7, 8, 9 and revelations.
The catholic church is old babylonian religion with christian beliefs and a lot of idolotry. The eucharist is an insult to christ everything the pontiff and his prists have since the middle ages are barrbarric

Answer 1

Well Catholicism is not the only religion which will have a place in revelation. Many Churches supposedly will join together in the name of unity of religion and tolerance. It will probably be headed by the Catholic church but certainly Catholics are not the only religion that do not follow the commands of God to the letter.

Answer 2

I am a former Catholic, currently a Born Again non-denominational Protestant, so I think I'm able to truthfully answer your question.

There is no awareness within the Catholic Church today that its practices, in many ways, echo the "Whore of Babylon." When asked this question, the typical Catholic will become quite confused, since their practices seem righteous to them; they then decry the practices of Protestants, which "fail" to conform to what they believe are God's teachings. They are unaware that, in doing so, they are calling evil good, and good evil. We must remember, though, that Jesus Christ has been appointed judge and we are not to react with hatred or condemnation. We are to gently urge them to reconsider their beliefs, based on a literal, rather than spiritual, interpretation of Scripture, that rejects the teachings and doctrines of men.

Having said this, I will also say that it is not accurate -- or Scriptural -- to conclude the One World Religion will be made up of one single faith. This is a "whore" that accepts all religious faiths as being true, and rejects absolute Scriptural truth. So you should probably rethink your position on this issue; to state the Catholic Church is "the" whore of Revelation is incorrect.

I do have comments for you regarding your Scriptural references, though. Daniel 7 - 9 does not directly reference the "Whore of Babylon." Instead, these sources reference the Antichrist, his one world government and his evil nature.

I think the truest description of the Catholic Church may be found at Revelation 2:19-29, the Church of Thyatira. Undoubtedly, the "sexual immorality" is spiritual adultry; the reference to "eating things sacrificed to idols" pertains to their paganistic view of the Eucharist. Again, I do not say these things to condemn anyone; I merely state the obvious.

Whether the Catholic Church will exist in the form it does today by the time Rev. 17, 18 and 19 come to pass, I do not know. However, what I do believe is that this "One World Religion" will be based at the Vatican. This is explained to us by Rev. 17. Again, this does not mean the Catholic Church will even control the Vatican at that time. I think it probably won't. The prophecy of St. Malachy tells us the current pope is the last traditional pope; the next one will be the shepard who leads his flock through the Tribulation.

Peace.

Answer 3

You have been brainwashed by hateful uneducated bigots who make money off your fear and ignorance.

Judging by the criteria of biblical fundamentalism (literal words literally understood) it is certain that there is no mention of the Catholic Church in the book of Revelation as the Whore of Babylon.

By contortions of interpretation (not biblical literalism) some groups and individuals equate the Whore in Revelation 17:9 with the Catholic Church since Rome is the famous city of seven hills and the Church's principal See is Rome. This position is untenable, both factually and from the only words of Scripture, which tell us of the actual doctrine of the Antichrist, those of the apostle John in his letters.

There would seem to be two choices, either interpret Rev 17:9 absolutely literally or according to some interpretive key that is metaphorical, allegorical or otherwise non-literal. Lets look first at literal interpretation.

"The seven heads represent seven hills on which the woman sits." First of all, no Pope has ever lived or had his "seat" (cathedra or cathedral) on any of the seven hills of Rome. These hills are small hillocks (Capitoline, Palatine, Esquiline, Aventine and three lesser "bumps" in central Rome) where the religion and government of pagan Rome was situated. The Catholic Church's headquarters at the Lateran (the cathedral) and at the Vatican (where the Pope lives) does not coincide with them. GET IT??

At the time that John wrote Revelation the Christians of Rome lived mostly in Trastevere (trans Tiber), a district "across the Tiber" from the City and adjacent to the Vatican hill where St. Peter was crucified and buried. The Vatican is on top of that burial site and is today its own city-state distinct from Rome and Italy.

So, of what was St. John speaking when he wrote Revelation on the island of Patmos around 96 AD? Obviously of the pagan imperial system situated on the Seven Hills. especially the Capitoline (the religious and political center) and the Palatine (the imperial palace). This pagan power persecuted the Church of Rome in Nero's day (64-67 AD), and in the mid-90s under Domitian was persecuting Christians throughout the Roman world. Domitian was considered by the people a re-incarnation of the evil, but well-liked, Nero (the head that lives again). While the antichrist Nero persecuted only the Christians of Rome, Domitian extended that persecution through the empire. Both are thus types of the final persecutor.

Why the cryptic name Babylon? First, the historical Babylon was the pagan power which persecuted the People of God, the Jews, between 610 and 538 BC, destroying the Temple and dispersing the people. The Romans inherited that mantle of infamy when they destroyed the Temple in 70 AD, and more importantly persecuted the new People of God, the Church. Thus, St. Peter, writing from Rome refers to as "Babylon" (1 Pt. 5:13) - a name any Jew or Christian familiar with the Old Testament would know.
GET IT???

How does this relate to the Antichrist? The future Antichrist will be a world-wide power, essentially pagan, which will persecute the Catholic Church (and orthodox Christians in general) everywhere, as the Babylonians persecuted the Jews and 1st century Rome the Church. These are biblical types! The Babylon of John's day, Rome, stands for the kingdom of the future Antichrist and is no more likely to be situated in Italy than Rome needed to be situated in Babylonia (modern Iraq). John was informing his readers of these prophetic types by drawing their attention to the contemporary fulfillment they found in pagan Rome. The Antichrist will come out of the Christian world (Greco-Roman civilization) to be sure (1 John 2:19), but America is as much an inheritor of that civilization as Europe and just as likely to be the source of the Antichrist.

Finally, after distorting the text and history to read what they want into the Bible, and thereby obtaining God's "blessing" on their hatred of the Catholic Church, some "Christians" ignore the only texts of Scripture which tells us about the religious leanings of the Antichrist. THAT WOULDN'T BE YOU, WOULD IT???

The Catholic faith being a religion you would think they would see what it teaches on the only criteria the Bible actually gives about the Antichrist. In St. John's letters (1 John 4, 2 John 1), he tells us that the spirit of the Antichrist denies the Incarnation (the Son of God becoming man) and thereby also the Trinity (the Father and the Spirit, too). THIS IS THE SPIRIT OF THE ANTI-CHRIST ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES THAT I JUST GAVE.

There is not a single text in 2000 years, including the new Catechism of the Catholic Church, where the Catholic Church, her popes, her bishops, her official teachings, her saints, or her acknowledged ecclesiastical authors, deny the Word-made-flesh or the Blessed Trinity. Instead, all of Christianity owes the preservation of these Truths to the Catholic Church, whose great Councils formulated them and whose saints and popes have defended them to this day, often at the cost of martyrdom.

John Paul II, has written three great encyclical (circular) letters on the Trinity, one for each Divine Person, and he has without a doubt preached Jesus Christ to more people than any other person in human history. The Catholic Church does not have the spirit of the Antichrist but of God, since no one without the Spirit can say "Jesus is Lord" (1 Cor. 12:3), something the Church and Catholics always have done and continue to do!

Even Protestant historians laugh at the stupid revisionisms and lies written by "Dr." Pickering (The Two Babylons) and A. Hyslop. Your question is not much different from the Muslem misinterpretation of a papal speech given recently.

Answer 4

You are so incredibly misinformed, I hardly know where to begin. But let's start with this,

"Beyond the grammatical evidence, the structure of the narrative does not allow for a downplaying of Peter’s role in the Church. Look at the way Matthew 16:15-19 is structured. After Peter gives a confession about the identity of Jesus, the Lord does the same in return for Peter. Jesus does not say, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. And I tell you, you are an insignificant pebble and on this rock I will build my Church. . . . I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven." Jesus is giving Peter a three-fold blessing, including the gift of the keys to the kingdom, not undermining his authority. To say that Jesus is downplaying Peter flies in the face of the context. Jesus is installing Peter as a form of chief steward or prime minister under the King of Kings by giving him the keys to the kingdom. As can be seen in Isaiah 22:22, kings in the Old Testament appointed a chief steward to serve under them in a position of great authority to rule over the inhabitants of the kingdom. Jesus quotes almost verbatum from this passage in Isaiah, and so it is clear what he has in mind. He is raising Peter up as a father figure to the household of faith (Is. 22:21), to lead them and guide the flock (John 21:15-17). This authority of the prime minister under the king was passed on from one man to another down through the ages by the giving of the keys, which were worn on the shoulder as a sign of authority. Likewise, the authority of Peter has been passed down for 2000 years by means of the papacy. "

Answer 5

This happens over and over again, someone running down another person's religion without having the nerve to mention his own beliefs.
I do know that Muslims are instructed to run down all churches except their own. If that's the case here, I'd say that it takes a hell of a lot of guts to use the word " barrbarric". Even misspelled, it far more describes Islam than any other religion.
So. come on, tell us what you believe. if you have to guts.

Answer 6

The Eucharist IS Christ.

Do you know who put the Book of Revelation in the Bible? The Catholic Church. Would they put something in the Bible that shows they are a false church?

The Book of Revelation refers to the PAGAN Roman Church which was outlawed at the time of Constan

Stop listening to preachers who are uninformed and RE MISLEADING YOU.

Answer 7

why is it the christians treat the bilble as fact and now the christians say the catholic church is a babylonian religion so now the christians hate the gay the none belevers now the catholics no wonder people hate the christians

Answer 8

So how did you come here from the 16th century did you use a time-machine?

BTW Your wrong on all points it says in the Holy Book that the Protestant faith is false and that Jesus warned us not to follow false prophets like Muhammed and Luther.

Answer 9

If I were God. I wouldnt let a little thing like this upset me. I'm omnipotent so its quite easy for me to sit back and relax, whilst you squabbling little humans nit pick one another.

Answer 10

If the Catholic church is the harlot, and protestants her children, what does that make protestants?

Most Christians practice the same phony doctrine (Trinity) invented by the harlot, so what is your complaint?

All Trinitarian Christians are going to hell if the bible is true.

Aren't you glad it isn't?