What came first? the creator or the creation?

Question

Think about it, the creator would need to be created too, so he/she would also be a creation.

So what came first? Where did it all start? Or is it just pointless to care?

Answer 1

neither and both
all time exsists at one point and we relive that same second of time over and over recreating our reality around us in tamdem with divinity so that time seems to have a begining and an end put is just a single point.

Answer 2

I think people keep getting stuck by "causality", the belief that a then b then c, that time is real and that everything had to happen in a certain sequence. In our current dimension of having a body, consciousness, and three physical dimensions, of course this makes sense.

However, when attacking questions such as yours, our 3-D reality can often lead to a dead end. I do not beleive your question can be answered using standard "logic" common to our scientific religion of engineering and physics.

But to address your question, I would say that in the dimension of "the beginning" there was no "first." The creator was creation--it was all the same. Personally I have come to the conclusion that "time" and "causality" is a characteristic of human perception and the mechanics of our current dimension.

That people have modeled God (the creator or creative force) after a human model--I pray that is not the case. If the creator is as petty, vengeful, angry and immature as humans can be, then we have a real problem. Burning down towns, flooding earth and murdering thousands, waging war and preferring one race over another, requiring males to chop off part of their penises, I just don't believe it. It is rediculous. Those attributes are a symptom of human ignorance and stupidity. I think i got off topic--sorry.

Answer 3

Good question bro

if typical of us ordinary human to think that creation comes first where a newborn would naturally being created from a created being

so its a creation in the created
and at the end of the line upstream...Adam & eve (as christian & muslim believed)

where did adam & eve begins?
if we were to think as human, one would be asking
who's their parents were? and their grandparents...and so on
there can never be a full stop to this.

just like the Chicken and egg question
have anyone actually got a sensible answer yet?
so let's not care to think about the creator been created-its agreeable to be pointless coz no one will or can never knows
it will or might drive someone nuts.
so don't crack your head with that but

let's just focus on the beginning of chicken/egg or adam and eve
what say you man?

Answer 4

Humor me for a second. I'm going to make a simple statement. "This is Yahoo Answers" That's the complete truth. Then someone states. "This is really just a bulletin board." Then someone adds "You know the BBS was around even before the Internet." Then someone points out that it is really just 111001100101 language translating numbers into what we see. Then to electricity and then to molecules and atoms then on and on. And the Universe is made up of molecule's and there are molecules in the vehicles that bring us Yahoo Answers so, Yahoo Answers is The Universe and God is in the Universe so Yahoo Answers is GOD!!! It is semantics gone stupid. OK remember the truth? It was "This Is Yahoo Answers" OK get ready ... Here is the truth. The Creation was made by the Creator. Creation does not know th origin of the Creator.
That was fun.
GOD bless ya,

Answer 5

You have your presupposition wrong. God is self exsistent and lives in eternity without time. He is the creator. He is the first and the last the begining and the end. If you are to take a walk in the woods and find a watch, you won't say "I wonder what tree this fell from". You would know that someone had to make it. It takes a watch maker. the same is true of creation. You see it and know that it took a creator. GOD

Answer 6

extremely the introduction desires a author because it had a beginning. The author does no longer desire yet another author because he did no longer have a beginning. the actual undeniable reality that we save time and the universe follows guidelines of reason and result says the universe had a beginning and some thing it truly is portion of this time continuum ought to no longer have created it. subsequently there must be an agent outdoors of our time continuum that began the cycle of time and reason/ result relationship. and considering that's illogical to proceed back into infinity, their ought to were a time-honored reason. That first reason must be an eternal agent that lives outdoors of any time continuum. I say that first reason is God. what's your end of what that first reason is? to Pam: I already spoke back why the universe won't be able to be eternal and in case you've faith the massive bang then you extremely ought to even trust the universe isn't eternal. What you could say is that the ability and or count number that brought with reference to the massive bang is eternal and that i have no argument hostile to that. if so i ought to desire so that you could keep in mind that your view is not any more advantageous logical or clinical then mine. We both have an eternal author that ought to no longer be shown to be authentic or difinitive. even with the indisputable fact that i ought to opt to ask it truly is more advantageous logical, a international that looks designed and has distinct intelligence interior it to be a introduction of a few thing with or with out intelligence?

Answer 7

The Creation Hymn of Rig Veda

There was neither non-existence nor existence then.
There was neither the realm of space nor the sky which is beyond.
What stirred?
Where?
In whose protection?
Was there water, bottlemlessly deep?

There was neither death nor immortality then.
There was no distinguishing sign of night nor of day.
That One breathed, windless, by its own impulse.
Other than that there was nothing beyond.

Darkness was hidden by darkness in the beginning,
with no distinguishing sign, all this was water.
The life force that was covered with emptiness,
that One arose through the power of heat.

Desire came upon that One in the beginning,
that was the first seed of mind.
Poets seeking in their heart with wisdom
found the bond of existence and non-existence.

Their cord was extended across.
Was there below?
Was there above?
There were seed-placers, there were powers.
There was impulse beneath, there was giving forth above.

Who really knows?
Who will here proclaim it?
Whence was it produced?
Whence is this creation?
The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this universe.
Who then knows whence it has arisen?

Whence this creation has arisen
– perhaps it formed itself, or perhaps it did not –
the One who looks down on it,
in the highest heaven, only He knows
or perhaps He does not know

Answer 8

What a stupid, Kindegarten, 2 yr. Old baby question. Oh yes a sly uestion too, But not sly enough. The Creator has always been, & then his Creations., You try so hard to prove that God had a Creator, then who is it, another God, Afraid not, The ONE TRUE GOD is Creator of all things. Go back to your coloring books, & leave the mature things for the grown ups.

Answer 9

Why do you think that the creator of Matter would have to be created, think about it, if you have the ability to create and eliminate, would you be able to not be limited within time and space?

Answer 10

Creater offcourse. There should be a creater of those who created the created. Accually nothing created creator.We accually doesn't have the the capability to think or creator hasn't given it to us. Believe creator and you will get its answer after your death.