Should Police be able to Pull Guns on 2 year olds and up for Officer Safety?

Question

I have been enlightened on this yahoo answers by seasoned law enforcement agents and they have let me know that 7 year olds pack heat and could be a danger to officer safety.

So the officers say that they are justified in pulling guns or even killing the children because they fear for their life.

Here's some cops killing children links.

http://vancouver.indymedia.org/?q=node/2218

http://www.bet.com/News/tlscott_devinbrown.htm?wbc_purpose=Basic&WBCMODE=PresentationUnpublished&Referrer=%7B03CE5360-2620-42CB-AD7E-77E4249C5FB7%7D

In the above link the officers fired 10 rounds into a 13 year old because they didn't want their cruiser to be dented. The officers are so full of b.s. they said they never intended to kill anyone.

I guess when they want to kill someone they fire 100 rounds.

10 rounds into a child is just horsin around to the cops.

Here's another good one police getting promoted for shooting innocent wrong man.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/node/489

I think that police pulling guns on children is absolutely dispicable.

How big of a man can you really be to pull guns and kill children.

And just because they're a police officer doesn't make it right.

All that I fear for my life is b.s. too.

What if common citizens started pulling guns and shooting children and said to the jury that they feared for their lifes.

I think that when these police kill children or pull guns on them they should be automatically charged by a jury of civilians.

Not a corrupt police Blue Shield Review board.

The review boards will always justify the police killing or abuse, or brutality.

I think that these cops should automatically be judged by jury and not police for this type of misconduct.

Any time you kill someone you should be tried, be you cop or civilian.

Murder is serious business, even if you wear a badge.

And if the cops is truly justified in killling the children the jury will decide that. Truth shall set free.

First of all to the guys answer below, none of these kids had guns.

They're just children for christs sake.

When children are becoming target practice for police, kids aren't stupid, they just might to decide to pack heat for their own protection and safety.

Or should the children just be canon fodder for psycho cops.

You tell me.

I'm waiting for some cops to come on here and say those kids had it coming.

If they didn't break the law they wouldn't be killed.
Should children be killed under any circumstances.

I would think a spanking might be more what these children need.

Not be gunned down execution style with automatic weapons.

Answer 1

Come to Britain. We do things differently here (not a great deal better, just differently).

I agree with ALL your statements! I reluctantly have to admit that police do have to carry firearms under certain circumstances - but not ALL police ALL the time!

Here in the UK we have recently seen how badly wrong the use of firearms by police can go when an Argentinian was killed because he was mistakenly thought to be a suicide bomber. Thank God we have not (yet) had an incident of an innocent unarmed child being shot by police!

I fully agree that if anyone is killed or wounded by police, there should be the most open and complete investigation of the incident and if there is any suspicion that an officer used his position to wield a weapon where it was unnecessary (and where an ordinary citizen would not have been justified in doing so), then that officer should be suspended from duty permanently.

I have often felt that recruitment to the police attracts a certain kind of person who tends to be power hungry and can turn vicious and lack proper judgement under pressure. Sometimes 'police procedure' seems to shield these people when there is an investigation. By no means all policemen are like this, of course.

It is true, I believe, that with the prevalence of guns in the States, children as young as 7 in certain societies may be armed. That is a very sad reflection on your society where it is often considered a citizen's right to be able to carry a weapon and so it is much more possible for a child of that age to be in posession of one (albeit illegally). Here in Britain we see that as a major disease of American culture.

That situation is bound to reflect on the way an officer reacts to taunts from children but, as you point out, firing 10 rounds into any person - let alone a person who might afterwards have been found to have been only 13 - should be considered a gross misuse of the badge the cop wears and should result in immediate dismissal and a criminal investigation.

Leo has a point. However, I would say that the real tragedy is that almost every household in the States has a gun. It may be locked in a hidden box and may actually never be used but it is there and it seems to be a commonplace. Someone commented that education of children was necessary. I know for a fact that in certain societies that would simply be laughed at! What is required is to make it illegal for anyone to possess a firearm - any firearm - without good reason and, in order to obtain and keep a license, to undergo proper training in the use of it and to be able to continually justify their possession of it! Everyone expects to have to take a test and to hold a license to drive a lethal weapon called a car - should there not be equal, if not stronger curbs on the possession and use of firearms?

Answer 2

This could have been one of your better questions. But once again you failed because you went off of your focus.

Police shooting 2 year olds. Wow, that's dramatic. But you don't have any information that this ever occurred. The examples you write about (1 not in US and 2 in US) are about 13 year olds. A far cry from a 2 year old.

I, believe that if I were faced with the decision of shooting a 13 year old to either save my own life or another-I would shoot. I would even do it in the defense of you.

As for shooting 10 rounds into a person. You shoot till the threat is no longer. I have seen people shot up to 20-30 times. When you have an active shooter you don't stop until he stops. You don't know if the shooter is on drugs, etc.

I can't say that I know of an incident when someone was shot 100 times. So you'll need to either come up with the story or quit being a drama queen.

Have a super day!

Answer 3

You are a fool to think that a two year old couldn't kill you or an officer. Just because they don't know what they are doing doesn't mean that they should be immune. Children who can hold a gun are just as able to fire it. They may think it's a game and don't know any better. The real thing that is tragic is the parents who leave their guns where they can be reached by their child. In a locked hidden box with a hidden key it takes the average 10yr old 15min. to find and open the box.

Before you make any more inflamitory posts I suggest you do a ride a long with a local law enforcement agency and experience what it is really like to be on patrol. Going out every night with no assurance that you will actually come home.

Answer 4

After following the links, I honestly don't see what the color of the teens skin had to do with it.

However, several rounds into someone IS excessive, unless (I can only speculate) that person is so hyped up on drugs, bullets don't stop them (which has happened before, but isn't the case in the links you provided.)

Some officers can be excessive at times, and certainly is excessive if it's a young teen, but I imagine that when an officer feels threatened, he/she might just keep firing until that person is on the ground (that's what I'd do, but I'm not a cop.)

If they teens in these stories didn't possess guns, the officers probably had no right to shoot them, but if they did, it really doesn't matter who's holding it...a gun's a gun.

If guns can be kept away from kids, then officers wouldn't feel threatened every time a minor stole a car. But somebody (the police would be good) needs to campaign for kids to stay away from guns.

Answer 5

I don't feel 2 yr old kids are a deadly threat to police but living in oakland I know that kids of 7 or 8 that are. a 2 year old get me a break he cant even hold up a gun in his hands

Answer 6

a 8 year old killed my best friend who is a cop he is a good one.
know this 8 year old will be charged for murder in the 1st degree. i hope he gets the max. my friend has a buteful family. he left 4 kids behind. just because he didnt want to kill a kid. they can pull the triger just like you or me. i would like a responce from you if you dont mind.

Answer 7

I only bothered to look at one of the links and when cross referenced with a legitimate news source(bet.com is about the black version of KKK.com) it stated that the car thief was ramming the police cars so whats wrong with shooting a car thief (any age) that is trying to run people down?save your racist propaganda for the more ignorant. 2pts

Answer 8

you should never kill a child but make the child give the officer the gun for there safety

Answer 9

definitely not

what harm can a 2 year old do to a cop
(yet if they pull a gun they are nuts)

Answer 10

Yes they should