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When a submarine dives does it shrink like a cartesian diver? I know what forces are involved but does the tensile strength and design prevent any shrinkage? Are the effects insignificant or are any changes measurable and have to be taken account of in the design?

2006-09-22 21:13:55 · 10 answers · asked by christopher N 4 in Science & Mathematics Engineering

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yes they do shrink. they are designed so that this will not interfere with operations, but most of that info is classified. The changes are measurable. if you were to tie a line (clothesline-style) from side to side inside the ship, there will be a noticeable slack in the line when the ship reaches a certain depth.

2006-09-22 21:27:23 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Yes... and No!
Submarines are made of two hulls (at the minimum). They are both (usually) made of steel.
The inside one contains the crew, and the pressure inside is increased slightly as the sub goes deeper, but never above ~2Bars (1 atmosphere = 1 Bar ~= 1kg/cm²).
The outside hull receives the FULL pressure of the water. At -10m, 2bars (1 atmosphere + 10m of water = 2 bars). At -20, 3 bars. At -200m, 21 bars, at -500m, 51 bars etc...
At these kind of pressures, the hardest steel starts "crushing", and the hull (although elastic), "bends" inwards, like if you compress a balloon. But, because it is "elastic" (the elasticity of steel), when the sub goes back to the surface, it takes back its shape. So, well, yes, they shrink!
If going lower than the safety limit, however, it is permanently deformed! I have seen some subs seriously damaged after a deep dive...

2006-09-22 21:29:20 · answer #2 · answered by just "JR" 7 · 1 0

not in the true sense as in shrinking a jumper in the wash no it does not .however my late dad (c.p.o./e.r.a. ) told my big bro that he showed new submariners the effects of pressure on the hull,by putting a length of string tight across the engine room.before they dived..as the sub went deeper the pressure on the hulls (inner and outer) would cause the string to sag .this was the result of pressure.so no subs don't shrink in the true sense..hope this helps ..this was in the late 50s early 60s.don't know about the modern sub..maybe a submariner out there can help..

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2006-09-22 22:51:01 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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